Posted by Nick on January 15, 2009 at 2:58pm in Off topic
I have found colon cleansing with colonics to be one of, if not the most helpful thing I have done to aid my body in the elimination of toxins. In a little over 2 years I have gone from the standard american diet (SAD) eating meat, dairy, fast food, coffee, energy drinks, smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol etc. to a nearly 100% raw fooder fruitarian. Winter tends to throw me off a little in seattle, in the spring and summer I am 100% raw and 100% fruit. I went from a totally exhausted, overweight junk food junkie with all kinds of health issues and totally devoid of any real vision for myself to someone who has discovered his spirit and an ever expanding consciousness and an inner peace I never felt before. I have become a total seeker when not long ago I was totally lost. My health has improved tremendously and frankly I do not think I could have not done it this fast without the extensive amount of colon cleansing I have done along the way. Colonics are a godsend and I highly recommend them to anyone who may feel like they are not progressing as fast as they would like or anyone who is dealing with a lot of cleansing reactions or strong food cravings. The colonics will remove the toxins that are still in the body which are causing the cravings and cleansing/healing reactions. If you have discovered some success with whatever level you are at on raw food diet but have not done any extensive colon cleasing, particularly colonics, you may be shocked at what a difference it will make in your progress.
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Well I got around the costs by getting myself a 'home colonic system' and doing them myself. I had an initial series of 4 done at a clinic, then decided to find a cheaper way. So I have done A LOT of them...not as much as some I'm sure but certainly my fair share. The things you guys are saying are definitely things I have thought about as well and to be honest I have always clung to the arguement you are talking about: 'our lifestyles are no longer natural, toxic food isn't natural, so therefore we can justify - and in fact need - unnatural therapies to return to health.' Then again... I don't think the cliff diving example of a how to achieve a colonic in nature would work too well either lol.
I think that one of the reasons I have done them all along is because I have easy and cheap access to doing them. So if I ever think I 'need' one, its right there for me. If I had to always go to a clinic to get one done perhaps I would have stopped by now...I'm sure I would have. And maybe then I would believe as you two do about them. But I have been doing them all along like I said so the only way to know for sure is to stop doing them and wait and see.
And I am happy to say thats what I have decided to do based on the information you sent me Fruiteus Maximus. That info about colonics has some how eluded me during all my reasearch on colonics, and a lot of it is compelling and explains certain things I have had doubts about with my experience of doing colonics. Unfortunately I land in that category of people who are 'particularly susceptible to colonics propaganda' as someone who suffers from digestive disorders, as it talks about in that article you sent. I have a pretty strong feeling that you guys are right, so I will go with my 'gut' Freelea and see how my 'gut' responds lol
NO I don't think I suffer from a 'colonic deficiency' lol!! And I understand where you are coming from (both of you). I do however believe I suffer from a 'natural living' deficiency! haha...Which is why I am moving to the tropics...the weather here is not 'natural' not to humans anyway. We are the only 'animals' that wear clothes, cook our food, and one of the few who spend most of thier time in permanent structures indoors with artificial heat, light, and cooling.
AND if we didn't? Where would be forced to live? If we didn't cook our food what food are we most attracted to in its raw unadulterated state? If we didn't wear clothes what climate would we be best designed to live in? If we didn't build permanent housing and instead lived outside with the rest of the animals where would be?
The tropics maybe? where its warm yearround plentiful fruit/vegetables yearround and if you took off your clothing and lived outside like the rest of the animals...well...I'm ready! lol
(These are just MY thoughts lol....not trying to put anyone down either and frankly Fruiteus I kind of enjoy how you express yourself! It reminds me of myself when I try to explain things to people...its a kind of an aggitated/irritated but coming from a good caring place (with good info) type of response...with a little anger and sarcasim mixed in at times lol...it's funny because I'm like that too, a lot people on this site I think get like that, its hard not to! lol... I've seen that first hand in some of Durianriders videos...it's funny...and I don't mind that at all....I read your response to Freelea's post: 'My Rant-Is our Death, sickness & lack of awareness bringing in the big $$...?' yesterday on television: 'Television, the drug of a nation, breeding ignorance and feeding radiation.' That was awesome! (Good topic and post Freelea as well, you guys are great!)
Ahh thanks Nick! I love receiving your thoughts! Its so nice to read an honest post, from the heart. I like your description - irritated/aggitated coming from a good place :-D
That was an awesome post Fruiteus, Nick I have been following Fruiteus & absorbing his wisdom for years, I really enjoy the way U express yourself too Fruiteus.....
Here's an example of that wisdom....:-DD Jump off a cliff into water with cheeks spread wide?"
Nick > Frugivore FreeleeJanuary 17, 2009 at 3:48pm
Well thanx Freelea! yeah agitated/irritated with a little humor mixed in as well...that's important! Forgot that part of it....as in the cliff diving example lol...you gotta have the humor in there lol... Wisdom, it is!
Thats exactly how I feel...I feel they got me through the rough times easier...I just got done reading Fruiteus Maximus's first link there though: http://www.rawschool.com/colonics.htm and it is extremely interesting...It's a view of colonics I haven't read about until now its very very interesting...you should check it out too FruitaliciousFi
I'm going to read the second link now...
Yeh i did them too for a while and found them very uncomfortable and odd, at the time I thought they were marvelous no wonder.....because after the 'crap' was removed that was sitting in my colon I, not suprisingly felt better.....the foods I was eating were making me feel toxic and once they were out..... my body was relieved of the energy-draining 'load'.
Unfortunately Its still treating a symptom as far as im concerned and not addressing the cause. Remove the cause and the symptom will disappear. Now that I eat a lowfat raw vegan diet there is no need to interfere. I get my very own fruit-induced 'colonic' daily, sorry for the details ;-DD
Colonics push matter back up there as well when its ment to be exiting which defies logic and natures design.
Thanks for the link Fruity.
Yep Fi diet, yoga they work for me too. See u tomorrow babe x
Crabby Cancer > Frugivore FreeleeJanuary 17, 2009 at 3:42pm
LOL. Freelea: "I found them very uncomfortable and...ODD". Yeah...having foreign objects in your bum is not ideal under the best of circumstances. Unless, you know, AHEM...nevermind.
Anyway I think you're supposed to kind of look past that and focus on the benefits. They didn't work too well for me but I'd like to try them again down the road, after I do raw healing/cleansing. And for the record, only for the health benefits, not because I enjoy that sort of thing.
Cheers Nick...I'm glad colonics had such an impact (wrong word sorry). A lot of people have had success with them. And you shouldn't be afraid to stir the waters;) Debate is healthy. It's not like you're posting pics of yourself eating tons of red meat and acting like a douche...good on ya;)
oh X u don't wanna hear it !! Not just yet....I was really stoked because my teacher said she heard some nice Vibrato in my voice....i was excited so I googled 'Bravado'!!! Shows how much i know about singing and music! 'Just LET IT OUT!' she keeps saying to me!
Thanks Crabby....no IMPACT is a good word lol...........and I agree Debate and/or discussion is very healthy. How else is there to exchange ideas, experiences, and knowledge to benefit each other??? It's not about competition with each other but cooperation. We are all in this together, Are we not?
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I think that one of the reasons I have done them all along is because I have easy and cheap access to doing them. So if I ever think I 'need' one, its right there for me. If I had to always go to a clinic to get one done perhaps I would have stopped by now...I'm sure I would have. And maybe then I would believe as you two do about them. But I have been doing them all along like I said so the only way to know for sure is to stop doing them and wait and see.
And I am happy to say thats what I have decided to do based on the information you sent me Fruiteus Maximus. That info about colonics has some how eluded me during all my reasearch on colonics, and a lot of it is compelling and explains certain things I have had doubts about with my experience of doing colonics. Unfortunately I land in that category of people who are 'particularly susceptible to colonics propaganda' as someone who suffers from digestive disorders, as it talks about in that article you sent. I have a pretty strong feeling that you guys are right, so I will go with my 'gut' Freelea and see how my 'gut' responds lol
NO I don't think I suffer from a 'colonic deficiency' lol!! And I understand where you are coming from (both of you). I do however believe I suffer from a 'natural living' deficiency! haha...Which is why I am moving to the tropics...the weather here is not 'natural' not to humans anyway. We are the only 'animals' that wear clothes, cook our food, and one of the few who spend most of thier time in permanent structures indoors with artificial heat, light, and cooling.
AND if we didn't? Where would be forced to live? If we didn't cook our food what food are we most attracted to in its raw unadulterated state? If we didn't wear clothes what climate would we be best designed to live in? If we didn't build permanent housing and instead lived outside with the rest of the animals where would be?
The tropics maybe? where its warm yearround plentiful fruit/vegetables yearround and if you took off your clothing and lived outside like the rest of the animals...well...I'm ready! lol
(These are just MY thoughts lol....not trying to put anyone down either and frankly Fruiteus I kind of enjoy how you express yourself! It reminds me of myself when I try to explain things to people...its a kind of an aggitated/irritated but coming from a good caring place (with good info) type of response...with a little anger and sarcasim mixed in at times lol...it's funny because I'm like that too, a lot people on this site I think get like that, its hard not to! lol... I've seen that first hand in some of Durianriders videos...it's funny...and I don't mind that at all....I read your response to Freelea's post: 'My Rant-Is our Death, sickness & lack of awareness bringing in the big $$...?' yesterday on television: 'Television, the drug of a nation, breeding ignorance and feeding radiation.' That was awesome! (Good topic and post Freelea as well, you guys are great!)
That was an awesome post Fruiteus, Nick I have been following Fruiteus & absorbing his wisdom for years, I really enjoy the way U express yourself too Fruiteus.....
Here's an example of that wisdom....:-DD
Jump off a cliff into water with cheeks spread wide?"
I dont think i could have detoxed without them
I dont feel i need them anymore, now that i take good care of myself with diet and yoga etc..
I'm going to read the second link now...
Yeh i did them too for a while and found them very uncomfortable and odd, at the time I thought they were marvelous no wonder.....because after the 'crap' was removed that was sitting in my colon I, not suprisingly felt better.....the foods I was eating were making me feel toxic and once they were out..... my body was relieved of the energy-draining 'load'.
Unfortunately Its still treating a symptom as far as im concerned and not addressing the cause. Remove the cause and the symptom will disappear. Now that I eat a lowfat raw vegan diet there is no need to interfere. I get my very own fruit-induced 'colonic' daily, sorry for the details ;-DD
Colonics push matter back up there as well when its ment to be exiting which defies logic and natures design.
Thanks for the link Fruity.
Yep Fi diet, yoga they work for me too. See u tomorrow babe x
Anyway I think you're supposed to kind of look past that and focus on the benefits. They didn't work too well for me but I'd like to try them again down the road, after I do raw healing/cleansing. And for the record, only for the health benefits, not because I enjoy that sort of thing.
Cheers Nick...I'm glad colonics had such an impact (wrong word sorry). A lot of people have had success with them. And you shouldn't be afraid to stir the waters;) Debate is healthy. It's not like you're posting pics of yourself eating tons of red meat and acting like a douche...good on ya;)
Such a funny bunch, these laughs are so vital!!
Fruiteus..
I'VE been the one following you - and that strange guy on a bike.... can't remember his name..... :)
-Oh was that you?
thats great to hear everyone feels supported here, thanks for making this site possible and for all your brilliant posts and info :-)
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