Science - Forum - The Frugivore Diet

Are there any long-term fruitarians left in existance?

2021-03-06T10:22:08.000Z

I noticed nearly everyone fell off the wagon and started eating cooked food. I can't find a single fruitarian left!

I am finally a full fledged fruitarian after a LONG journey with cooked food addiction and now that I have finally conquered it, I am not able to find a single full fledged fruitarian 100% raw left and I REALLY need influences!

Does anyone know any fruitarians who are legitimately still going strong without cheating on cooked? Anyone. Even people who I won't be able to reach.

Smoothies vs whole foods

2021-01-31T12:57:53.000Z

Hey everyone! I'm new here and hoping to get some advice. I would love to try fully raw food! However, I live in Canada and such a lifestyle is pretyy expensive (I hope to oneday build a greenhouse when I own my own home).

So, in the meantime, I was thinking raw til 4! I look at Freelees results and I'm just in awe, and have also really struggled with other diets.

My only concern is the smoothies. I've heard of studies that say smoothies are actually not very good for you, and that eating the foods in whole food form is most ideal... But when I try to cram in as many calories without the aid of smoothies I find it very challenging...

Hoping to get advice :)

Ultra-processed foods.

2018-09-26T05:01:33.000Z

Below is from the British Medicine Journal open, a scholarly peer reviewed article. Processing food matters.

"Results Ultra-processed foods comprised 57.9% of energy intake"

Ultra-processed foods and added sugars in the US diet: evidence from a nationally representative cross-sectional study

Eurídice Martínez Steele1,2,
Larissa Galastri Baraldi1,2,
Maria Laura da Costa Louzada1,2,
Jean-Claude Moubarac2,
Dariush Mozaffarian3,
Carlos Augusto Monteiro1,2 bmjopen

"Conclusions Decreasing the consumption of ultra-processed foods could be an effective way of reducing the excessive intake of added sugars in the USA." bmjopen

This is useful to the raw vegan community because every once in a while you get a person who advocates that processing food does not matter. That diet is simply calories intake minus out take. This is a oversimplification fallacy. Many other factors come into play including fiber.

Science is slow but reliable. This is not absolute proof, yet the evidence is increasing that a whole plant based diet is the way to go.

Also note later in the article that added sugars is to be avoided.

"All reports recommended limiting intake of added sugars.1 ,3–5 In the USA, the USDGAC recommended limiting added sugars to no more than 10% of total calories. " bmjopen

This shows that added sugars is a problem and ultra-processed food are part of the problem. Also, note that difference between added sugars and non-added sugars like that in a whole apple, banana, or carrot. Some promoters of low carb diets will argue that all sugars and carbs are detrimental to health. This would be an over-simplification and cherry picking fallacy since only added sugars are the problem.

Finally, I end this post with an ethical question? Is lying for a just cause moral or immoral? If you could lie and save 100,000 animals lives, would you tell a falsehood?

The reason I ask is humans tend to believe lies over truth. Fake news penetrates further on social media and spreads faster. Overall, my opinion on the matter is that you are trading long term for short term if you were to lie. 100,000 animals might be saved in a year, but in 25 years it might cost the lives of 200,000 animals.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/3/e009892

Free Live Webinar this Thursday: Why a Ketogenic Diet Increases Your Level of Insulin Resistance with Cyrus Khambatta, PhD and Robby Barbaro

2018-06-10T21:38:24.000Z

http://masteringdiabetes.mindfuldiabetic.com/webinarregistration

Bill Nye urges caution with GMF (genetically modified foods)

2018-04-08T21:43:34.000Z

I've been reading Bill Nye's book Evolution Undeniable. [0] Bill Nye is very pro science, yet he urges caution with genetically modified foods. This is interesting because I've heard many people scold me when I express doubts about GMF, "are you anti-science"?

Yet, the opposite is true, Bill Nye uses science, his understanding of evolution, and ecosystems to explain the potential environmental harm from GMF. Ecosystems are very complex and took hundreds of thousands of years to evolve. That researchers can know what happens to the specific corn or soy plant, but will likely miss a subtle detail in the Eco-system impact.

Nye also gives specific examples of monarch butterflies and allergies to GMF. With the butterflies they are under attack in two ways, first the corn plant is resistant to Roundup herbicide meaning more spraying of herbicide killing the milkweed plant the butterflies need. Second, the GM pollen may blow from the corn plant onto the milkweed plant harming the monarchs directly.

As for allergies, papaya fruit eaters reported an allergy to the GM (genetically modified) version but no such allergy to the non-GM version. [0] page 234 paragraph three.

In conclusion, Bill Nye thinks that GMF are controversial and should be according to his book. [0] Finally, Nye is fine with hybridization, for example crossing two different variations of wheat crop.

Source.

0. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21853626-undeniable

Taking good care of your teeth with fluoride.

2018-04-03T21:44:28.000Z

I've been away for a bit to cool down after the political climate got too hot for me. I am happy to be back. This election did make me acutely aware of how quickly misinformation and fake news spreads.

I love this website. I love vegan-ism. I am excited about the interesting discussions about honey bee sentience and rights. Where else on the web can you find such enlightening and invigorating discussions?

Yet, sometimes as fallible humans we make mistakes due to our cognitive biases. [0][1] One mistake I think I have made is in regards to fluoride.

Science vs ideological bias

Why do we need science? To error check and figure out the truth is my answer. Humans make mistakes all the time and as seen by the book Merchants of Doubt professional deceivers make good use of our fallible and often gullible nature. [2] Btw, I first heard of the book here on this amazing website.

As seen in the book the tobacco industry lied to us just as the climate change denial industry has. We need science to fight against the agents of injustice within the world.

Personally, I have spent much time, energy, and willpower arguing with people who deny science. Whether they be paleos, climate change deniers, or even flat Earth believers.

Yet, why do these science deniers deny science? Well if you take a free course at edx.org you will find out why. [3] Science denial stems from accepting an idea and then looking for evidence to back up the accepted idea. This is a form of cognitive bias or political bias. True skeptics on the other hand look at the evidence first and then form an opinion based upon scientific fact.

Now, we know why people come to the wrong conclusions. In the case of fluoride it has to do with the naturalistic ideology. I accepted that fluoride did more harm than good because chimpanzees don't use fluoride toothpaste. Yet, I now believe that fluoride toothpaste does more good than harm when following the proper procedure.

We need science to convince others

When I first starting arguing with others on-line, I found I wasn't believed. That's okay, because many people experience the world view backfire effect. Meaning presenting evidence to the contrary of their belief further entrenches said belief. Yet, that wasn't the problem.

The problem was I wasn't convincing the swing voters nor the lurkers reading the thread. Why, because I was an amateur and made inferior arguments. I didn't use sources, when I did use sources my sources were low credibility, and finally I didn't use science.

Imagine a vegan and palo arguing back and forth both firming entrenched in their ideologies. Let's say the argument is about both animal and plant sentience. What would break the stalemate?

Science from a credible source would break the stalemate. If the vegan was to link to this [4] article and show that bees have 960,000 neurons in their head proving that bees can are smarter and have a higher form of sentience than carrots. Therefore, eating steam carrots is fine, but not honey from enslaved honey bees.

Here's another article showing how smart bees are. [5] "The stress of shaking had turned them into pessimists who interpreted the ambiguous odor as half-threatening, rather than half-appetizing. " [6]

In other words bees have an emotional state of sorts. Without science the vegan and palo are essentially gridlocked never progressing just shouting back and forth until one gets tired. The swing voters, the lurkers, are never swayed.

The same can be said for other idealogical arguments. An environmentalist and a libertarian can get in a debate about climate change. Yet, without evidence the argument cannot progress.

Also ideologies can be taken too far. To state that no tree should ever be cut down is going too far, there is sustainable logging techniques. The flip side would be to clear cut every single tree, which would also being going too far, but in the other direction.The solution is in the middle ground based upon evidence, sustainable logging techniques.

Science helps protect ourselves and keep the vegan community safe

Now what does this have to do with fluoride? Personally, I went with the all natural anti-toxin ideology. I got rid of all my ADA approved fluoride toothpaste, I stopped using my ADA approved antiseptic mouthwash, and I stopped using my ADA approved ACT fluoride rinse. Guess what? My teeth got worse.

Now this is only a sample size of one, so I looked into why this was happening? Why suddenly when I drink salt do I get gas and my teeth hurt? Why are my cavities getting worse? Why do my gums often hurt?

Well eventually due to pain and desperation I reverted to my old fluoride and antiseptic ways. Within an hour my pain lessened considerably. Within 24 hours my pain was all but gone only to reoccur occasionally with much less duration and pain.

My teeth have decayed more slowly I feel better and I have more energy. Wait, a minute what happened? I thought toxins were the enemy.

Well I looked into the science using credible sources and guess what? Fluoride is useful after all, apparently the fluoride ion binds with the teeth and makes it more difficult for bacteria to eat your teeth and therefore grow in numbers. My generic brand of anti-septic was killing pathogens that were causing me pain, draining my energy, and damaging my teeth.

In summary we need science to convince others and to keep ourselves safe. If a person mindlessly follows an ideology without evidence he/she will eventually hurt him/herself. To the best of my knowledge fluoride tooth paste and mouthwash are vegan. The same goes with my antiseptic.

Ultimately, advocates of fluoride-free toothpaste probably mean well, but are putting the health of the vegan community and their selves at risk. When the vegan community is at risk animals are at risk. Fluoride-free advocates are putting their own personal purity above the needs of animals.

Now look at the science below and make an evidence and scientific based decision about whether you should use fluoride.

Fluoride Toothpaste

The most important ingredient to look for when choosing toothpaste is fluoride.

Fluoride is a naturally occurring mineral. Its use has been instrumental in the dramatic drop in tooth decay and cavity occurrence that has taken place over the past 50 years. Bacteria in your mouth feed on sugars and starches that remain on your teeth after eating. Fluoride helps protect your teeth from the acid that is released when this happens." [7]

""Most likely, fluoride works by a combination of these effects. But the remineralization effect of fluoride is of prime importance, because it results in a reversal of the early caries process and it gives rise to an enamel surface that is more resistant to decay." [8]

With all these amazing benefits of fluoride, why would people resist fluoride?

How Poisonmongers Work

The antifluoridationists' ("antis") basic technique is the big lie. Made infamous by Hitler, it is simple to use, yet surprisingly effective. It consists of claiming that fluoridation causes cancer, heart and kidney disease, and other serious ailments that people fear. The fact that there is no supporting evidence for such claims does not matter. The trick is to keep repeating them—because if something is said often enough, people tend to think there must be some truth to it." [9]

Since its inception in the 1940s, the scientifically sound concept of fluoridating water has been a source of fear and suspicion in the minds of conspiracy theorists.

Fluoride works by converting the outer layer of tooth enamel made of hydroxylapatite, Ca₅(PO₄)₃OH, to fluoroapatite, Ca₅(PO₄)₃F. The latter chemical is less soluble in acidic solutions. The three most commonly added fluoride chemicals are sodium fluoride (NaF), fluorosilicic acid ((H₃O)₂SiF₆), and sodium fluorosilicate (Na₂[SiF₆]).^[2] Fluorosilicic acid is a byproduct of phosphate fertilizer manufacture, a fact which fluoride opponents repeat ad absurdum in an attempt to scare you.^[3]

In short: The issue has been extensively studied since the 40's. As a result, every reputable public health organization endorses the benefits of fluoridation. To date, no such organizations have endorsed claims that fluoride is a secret communist mind-control plot -- though we wait with bated breath." [10]

"So rest easy gentle readers. No matter how hard we try, we dentists aren’t very good at poisoning you people. In fact all those things we recommend to you actually are beneficial to your dental and overall health and have a long track record of success as well as reams of solid scientific evidence to back up their safety and efficacy. And kudos to the AAP for updating their fluoride recommendations to better protect our young children from dental decay, the number one malady affecting children." [11]

As for the legitimacy of these sources, due to this being the age of fake news, I highly recommend using mediabiasfactcheck or another credible fact checker for every website you use.

PRO-SCIENCE

These sources consist of legitimate science or are evidence based through the use of credible scientific sourcing. Legitimate science follows the scientific method, is unbiased and does not use emotional words. These sources also respect the consensus of experts in the given scientific field and strive to publish peer reviewed science. Some sources in this category may have a slight political bias, but adhere to scientific principles. See all Pro-Science sources.

Factual Reporting: VERY HIGH

Notes: Science-Based Medicine is dedicated to evaluating medical treatments and products of interest to the public in a scientific light, and promoting the highest standards and traditions of science in health care. (8/19/2016)" [12]

Thank you for reading this post. Remember put animal welfare above your own personal purity by keeping the vegan community safe. Stick to science and evidence based practices and ideas. Use fluoridated tooth paste to keep good care of your teeth.

Sources.

0. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

1. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rationalwiki/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

3. https://www.edx.org/course/making-sense-of-climate-science-denial

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_neurons

5. http://www.wisegeek.com/how-smart-are-honey-bees.htm

6. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-bees-have-feelings/

7. https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/guide/weighing-your-toothpaste-options#1

8. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-the-fluoride-in/

9. https://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/fluoride.html

10. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation

11. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/fluoride-still-not-poisoning-your-precious-fluids/

12. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/science-based-medicine/

electrolyte (sodium) content of parts (peels) of fruits, ie lemons

2018-02-05T14:35:36.000Z

I'm looking for studies or other types of information that have measured the nutrient, mainly sodium and other electrolyte content of fruits and am interested in peels.

Google scholar isn't super yielding searching for electrolyte forms (bonds) in ie coconut water or contents in lemons / lemon peels or just the pith not coming off with the peel while peeling.

The interesting thing on chronometer is most foods that are commonly referred to as rich(er) in sodium like coconut water, most melons, spaghetti squash etc demonstrate these contents on chronometer (usda / nccdb).

Lemons or raw lemon juice however don't really show much at all.

Lemon Juice, Canned, Bottled or Boxed however demonstrate enough to think you could get much of what you need from a few 250 ml (roughly 1 cup) bottles of lemon juice (I love lj).

the ones I buy are just 100% lemon juice, no other ingredients and not (from) concentrate and have hazier, whiter sets at the bottom until you shake the bottles.

Does anybody have an idea why this difference?

Properly ripened when juiced in Italy rather than picked for whole fruit export?

My guess is bottled or canned lemon juice has added salt for shelf life outside of the EU but considering how lemons are said to be high in electrolytes I wonder why this wouldn't show up in the assays of the USDA on raw lemon juice.

lemon (slices with) peel infused water also gets the high in electrolyte reputation and a comparison of apples with and without peel on chronometer seem to suggest most of the sodium is found in the peel... "lemon peel" in the usda db doesn't seem to contain that much so I wonder if it's the zest and not the white stuff that has been measured...

In the summer naturally I'll just buy lots of melons and such top sources.

Thanks for reading!

Why Does Soy Reduce Estrogen Levels In studies?

2017-12-14T02:10:06.000Z

Soy is widely known in health circles as pro-estrogenic and feminizing and men are recommended to avoid it. If that’s actually the case, can anyone explain why serum estrogen levels actually decrease in soy-supplemented groups in studies in both men and women? And why is there an inverse relationship between hormone dependent cancers such as breast and prostate cancer (I suppose all cancers are hormone dependent) and soy consumption? Here are just some of the studies I’m talking about:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8770469 - 36-oz of daily soymilk consumption for a month significantly decreased serum 17 beta-estradiol levels in premenopausal women.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9839524 - Estrone and estradiol levels were decreased by 23% and 27% at the end of the study in the soy milk supplemented group in Japanese women. The change in estrone and estradiol levels was minor in the control, non-soy group.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11303585 - Serum estrone concentrations decreased in the soy-supplemented group in Japanese men. There was no change in testosterone levels in both the soy group and the control group.

Is it that the estrogen circulation in blood decreases from soy but estrogen level inside the cell increases? Is that why soy is so widely considered as ‘estrogenic’?

Came Across An Interesting Interview On Health And Longevity

2017-12-10T12:09:24.000Z

Been thinking about this ever since I read Kurzweil’s book ‘Transcend’. Many people might already be familiar with his ideas and his theory of exponential growth and how that will affect our health and longevity. Here’s the latest interview with him where he succintly summarizes his predictions about the future of health, aging and biotechnology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzXWGrngTw

Thoughts? What do you think are the holes/blind spots in his arguments?

Fish Consumption And Diabetes Risk

2017-12-09T12:17:24.000Z

There’s little question that fish contain environmental pollutants such as mercury and PCBs with, generally, bigger fish such as shark and tuna containing more and smaller fish like sardines containing less. That’s been common knowledge between health researchers for a while now. The real question is whether that translates into any of the major degenerative diseases in people (such as cancer or diabetes).

Well, sadly, in the case of diabetes it does appear to be the case.

Here’s a great video by Dr. Michael Greger summarizing the science between diabetes risk and fish consumption:

As he mentioned in the video, besides the pollutants, the causal link could also very well be the oxidative stress causing n-3 fatty acid content of the fish. That obviously goes against the mainstream opinion on diet but one can certainly find smart people that would support that notion and as far as I’ve seen the research on fish oil seems to be quite mixed.

Vegetable Oils Make You Fat And Cause Chronic Disease

2017-09-02T10:03:19.000Z

For anyone who’s looked into and reasearched the health effects of different omega-6 containing vegetable oils, you’ll quickly find that there’s a strong connection between all of them and the major degenerative diseases such as diabetes, cancer, heart disease, alzheimer’s and even obesity.

Here are a couple of excerpts from the full text studies that I found particularily interesting:

On obesity from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23249760:

‘Recent studies have emphasized the proadipogenic properties of the omega-6 PUFA, and provided evidence that rodents fed on diets with omega-6 PUFA contents similar to the typical US diet (6–8% energy) have an increased fat mass. Importantly, recent studies have shown that perinatal exposure to a high omega-6 PUFA diet results in a progressive accumulation of body fat across generations.’

On chronic disease from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408140:

‘Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today’s Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases...’

On chronic disease from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22570770:

‘...high intake of n-6 PUFA, along with low intakes of n-3 PUFA, shifts the physiological state to one that is proinflammatory and prothrombotic with increases in vasospasm, vasoconstriction, and blood viscosity and the development of diseases associated with these conditions.’

So if you HAVE to cook with oil (which I don’ t recommend) using something like MCT oil or adding olive oil to salad might be less harmful compared to n-6 oils. Even then, fats in general, also those in olive oil have been connected to diabetes and MCT oil/coconut oil has some pretty potent cholesterol raising effects.

This is certainly common knowledge around here but I find that researching these connections on my own gives me a more complete understanding rather than just taking somebody’s word for it. I find it’s also easier to stay on a diet and avoid the harmful foods if you are constantly reading studies and seeing evidence everywhere on their negative effects yourself.

If you have more reaserch to add, I’d appreciate it.

An Irritated Tongue

2017-08-05T17:06:48.000Z

I got an irritated tongue a couple weeks ago. It was RED, Blotched, & very painful. I chalked it up to eating too many peaches in 2 days. so I stayed off the peaches (I just ate bananas & watermelon for a few days), and my tongue irritation when away.

But now, I'm eating strictly bananas, mangos, and watermelon and my tongue is starting to get irritated again!!! I'm at a loss! I'm tired of having this problem!! Does anyone now what I should do to remedy this? Need assistance.

FYI: I eat only fruit until 4, then nothing but cooked carbs after that. I'm very happy with the cooked carbs part of my diet. I feel full and satiated every evening. I just don't know what to do about this tongue problem. please help!

When should i eat a salad?

2017-07-27T17:58:46.000Z

I was just wondering...I eat fruit for breakfast, but for lunch I have a raw food salad (& not more fruit). Is that acceptable in the "ideal" raw til 4 diet? Just wondering.

Thanks.

Vegan deficiencies! The science explained

2017-07-03T22:53:09.000Z

Hello friends :) I would be honored if you took the time to watch this video my friend and I produced. It's perfect to share with family members who are concerned we vegans don't get our nutritional needs met and for all the haters that try and say meat is necessary for certain nutrients.

Organic food science

2016-11-08T04:01:33.000Z

Found a site that has some scholarly peer reviewed scientific articles about organic foods. You would think with all the anti-organic websites that organic is a waste of resources. Apparently there is ample pro-organic scientific studies I've missed.

https://www.organic-center.org/

Melatonin + BANANAS + unbelieveable stuff

2016-09-25T11:29:35.000Z

melatonin is a powerful free-radical scavenger and wide-spectrum antioxidant as discovered in 1993.

Melatonin is an antioxidant that can easily cross cell membranes and the blood–brain barrier.

This antioxidant is a direct scavenger of radical oxygen and nitrogen species including OH•, O•2−, and NO•.

Melatonin works with other antioxidants to improve the overall effectiveness of each antioxidant.

Melatonin has been proven to be twice as active as vitamin E, believed to be the most effective lipophilic antioxidant.

An important characteristic of melatonin that distinguishes it from other classic radical scavengers is that its metabolites are also scavengers in what is referred to as the cascade reaction.

Also different from other classic antioxidants, such as vitamin C and vitamin E, melatonin has amphiphilic properties (it mixes both with water & lipid soluble substances such as vitamins).

When compared to synthetic, mitochondrial-targeted antioxidants (MitoQ and MitoE), organic melatonin proved to be a comparable protector against mitochondrial oxidative stress.

Studies also suggest that melatonin is useful fighting infectious disease including viral, such as HIV, and bacterial infections, and potentially in the treatment of cancer.

It is known that melatonin interacts with the immune system. Antiinflammatory effect seems to be the most relevant and most documented in literature.

Melatonin presence in the gallbladder has many protective properties, such as converting cholesterol to bile, preventing oxidative stress, and increasing the mobility of gallstones from the gallbladder.

Melatonin benefit exists for treating tinnitus (ringing in the ear).

When humans consume foods rich in melatonin such as BANANA, pineapple and orange the blood levels of melatonin increase significantly.

In humans, 90% of orally administered exogenous melatonin is cleared in a single passage through the liver, a small amount is excreted in urine, and a small amount is found in saliva.

Blue light, principally around 460 to 480 nm, suppresses melatonin, proportional to the light intensity and length of exposure.

Until recent history, humans in temperate climates were exposed to few hours of (blue) daylight in the winter; their fires gave predominantly yellow light.

The incandescent light bulb widely used in the 20th century produced relatively little blue light. Light containing only wavelengths greater than 530 nm does not suppress melatonin in bright-light conditions.

Wearing glasses that block blue light in the hours before bedtime may decrease melatonin loss.

Use of blue-blocking goggles the last hours before bedtime has also been advised for people who need to adjust to an earlier bedtime, as melatonin promotes sleepiness.

Human melatonin production decreases as a person ages. EAT MORE BANANAS

Also, as children become teenagers, the nightly schedule of melatonin release is delayed, leading to later sleeping and waking times.

i hope you found this interesting

Vegetarians & vegans more emphatic than omnivoires.

2016-09-11T01:20:07.000Z

"Results
Empathy assessment

The Empathy quotient (EQ) score was significantly different between groups (p = 0.002). At post-hoc analysis, the EQ score was significantly higher in vegetarians in comparison with omnivore subjects (mean EQ score = 49.5, SD = 8.9 in vegetarians vs. 38.8, SD = 8.1 in omnivore; p = 0.001), and in vegans (mean EQ score = 44.6, SD = 9.8) in comparison with omnivore subjects (p = 0.04) (Figure 1). The difference between vegans and vegetarians was not statistically significant."

There is scientific evidence to support vegetarians and vegans are more emphatic than omnivores.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0010847

Milk increases chance of mortality and hip fractures.

2016-09-08T08:22:11.000Z

"The risk of any bone fracture increased 16 percent in women who drank three or more glasses daily, and the risk of a broken hip increased 60 percent, the findings indicated."

Women who drank three glasses of milk or more every day had a nearly doubled risk of death and cardiovascular disease, and a 44 percent increased risk of cancer compared to women who drank less than one glass per day, the researchers found.

Men's overall risk of death increased about 10 percent when they drank three or more glasses of milk daily, said the study, published online Oct. 28 in BMJ."

In other words drinking milk causes osteoporosis, the complete opposite of what we have been taught in school.

http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/news/20141029/is-milk-your-friend-or-foe?page=2

http://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/349/bmj.g6015.full.pdf

MTHFR Genetic mutation and b vitamins and veganism

2016-08-26T17:48:02.000Z

MTHFR may be a reason some people don't do well on a vegan diet. If you search "vegan MTHFR" you can find discussions about it being a problem. I have MTHFR and my experience is that it is a problem. I'm posting this for help and I'm sure that I'm missing information but I feel that I can't process supplement b12. My blood test shows 950 but I still have deficiency symptoms so after almost three years as a vegan I ate salmon and the next day the symptoms were gone. It was like waking up from a sleep. Now I eat vegan and when I start to feel poor I eat salmon. This is not a joke. I have tried many forms of supplements, tabs, sub lingual and injections and they don't work like eating salmon. I don't want to eat fish I want a supplement that works. Any big brains on the subject reading this? Thanks for reading.

Arguing with climate change deniers all day long.

2016-08-15T22:57:37.000Z

One issue I've seen is about 50% of people seem to deny global climate change. I've been arguing with these people all day and night long for the last few days. Yet, there seems no end to their arguments.

I find it very hard to sell people on vegetarian/vegan issues if they don't believe the environment is important. Any advice?

Fruits and Veggies Make Us Happier

2016-07-12T17:45:49.000Z

The happiness we've all known and attest to on our high fruit diet has now been proven with science.

http://sciencenewsjournal.com/eat-fruit-veggies-happy/

TLDR:

New research, involving 12,385 randomly sampled Australian adults, shows that people can experience an increase in life satisfaction to the same degree as moving from unemployment to employment, simply by going from eating almost no fruit and vegetables at all to up to 8 portions per day.

High fat meals harm the brain by hindering your ability to handle stress

2016-07-08T16:05:42.000Z

I am reading a great book by Daniel Amen M.D., of TED talk fame, called Change Your Brain Change Your Body.

Quote from book:

"Numerous studies have shown that when unrelenting stress hits, it causes many of us to look for solace in [high fat meals]. Unfortunately, high-fat foods can also trigger stressful reactions. Researchers at University of Calgary examined stress reactions in two groups of students. The first group ate a high-fat breakfast while the second group noshed on a low-fat meal. Two hours later, the stress subjects went through a series of stressful tasks. In each of the tasks, the group that gorged on the high-fat meal showed higher stress reactions than the second group."

Quote from website:

"according to the National Safety Council, stress causes as much as 80% of all disease and illness."

-Daniel Amen M.D.

The website and excellent video on stress and your brain:

http://www.amenclinics.com/blog/watch-brain-stress/

Hydroponic Agriculture

2016-07-06T20:35:25.000Z

Who can teach me about hydroponics?

Animals prefer freedom.

2016-07-02T01:33:58.000Z

Hey, anyone got any links with scientific evidence supporting that animals prefer freedom to captivity? I'm arguing with somebody who states that animals aren't even aware of being confined and that animals are better off being raised on a nice farm as opposed to be eaten by wild animals. Btw, I get this argument a lot.

low vision

2016-06-22T00:48:20.000Z

I have glasses but I don´t weare them so much since around 2 years.

I wonder if I can find some info about people who cured their low vision by raw food.

Maybe someone from this community who experienced a cool improvement of vision?

thanks

Food addiction and the science behind it.

2016-06-20T03:28:20.000Z

I used to laugh at the idea of food addiction as a bunch of bull manure. Yet, I've been thinking about why it is so difficult for me to transition diets. The extreme feelings I get when thinking about changing my diet. Perhaps there is a scientific reason behind why subtracting food from a diet seems like such a herculean task for me.

Apparently according to WebMd, food addiction is real. Can you believe it? I can't. I'm still not buying that food can be addictive.

"Some argue that recovery from food addiction may be more complicated than recovery from other kinds of addictions. Alcoholics, for example, can ultimately abstain from drinking alcohol. But people who are addicted to food still need to eat." WebMd

"What I found, over four years of research and reporting, was a conscious effort — taking place in labs and marketing meetings and grocery-store aisles — to get people hooked on foods that are convenient and inexpensive." MICHAEL MOSS Ny times magazine

"Consuming highly processed carbohydrates can cause excess hunger and stimulate brain regions involved in reward and cravings, according to a new study. These findings suggest that limiting these "high-glycemic index" foods could help obese individuals avoid overeating." Sciencedaily Boston Children's Hospital

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/binge-eating-disorder/mental-health-food-addiction

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html?_r=0

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130626153922.htm

Factory Farming

2016-05-04T00:32:26.000Z

Anyone know of any good books or articles on this subject and how it's affecting the climate?

TSH levels

2016-04-26T21:41:46.000Z

Has anyone had their TSH levels checked before veganism and after at least 4 months of HCLF WITHOUT having a dysfunctional thyroid?

Where you still in a healthy range?

Does protein make you fat?

2016-04-16T15:58:27.000Z

Hi everybody,

I've just been promoting RT4 to some other vegan friends of mine and I found I couldn't really answer when they asked why/how protein makes you fat. Now clearly this is just an example of something that just entered my head as 'fact' without me being able to back it up with logic (surprising and worrying how easily that can happen!), and now I would like to correct myself! I know I've heard Freelee and DR say that protein makes you fat in their videos, but I couldn't easily find a credible scientific source to back that up. Can someone link me to the right resources, and give me the layman's version? :)

Thanks!

Tim

P.S. I'm only a few days in to RT4, and this is my first post in the forums, so 'Hi' also :)

Modern Omnivourus diets try to replace Potassium w/ Sodium?

2016-04-10T18:20:25.000Z

Don't know mch about electrolytes, or how sodium and potassium differ, but it seems to me that sodium gets swapped w/ potassium in the standard American dietAnybody have some science to contribute?