dates - Forum - The Frugivore Diet

Warning about Dateorade? High oxalate?

2018-02-03T20:59:10.000Z

Well since no one really replies to posts here anymore, I just have been digging through the discussion archives in search of answers to my questions, one being of a recent post I did. I have calcium deposits on my ribs and get them around my eyes sometimes. A chiropractor found them on my ribs in a recent xray. He said this was dangerous if it spread to my organs but my problems would be solved if I ingested k2 from Natto. I went and got a good supplement instead, as I wasn't interested in eating super salty Natto. Have yet to get many replies on that thread.

In the meantime...

Was sitting here drinking a 31 date smoothie and munching a big bowl of spinach and wanted to remind myself what the deal is with oxalates. I found this awesome thread:

http://www.30bananasaday.com/profiles/blogs/oxalates

So oxalates inhibit calcium and iron assimilation/absorption... and dates are high in oxalates??I had no idea.

I also was recently prescribed iron my my doctor because my levels were low. This could be what the problem is. I love date smoothies (Dateorade) because I prefer the taste over bananas, and they are easier to keep in the house with roommates than bananas (fruit flies and smell), however now I'm having second thoughts on my daily consumption and main calorie source coming from dateorade.

This is life changing for me to discover this. I never have heard any warnings about consuming dates or that they were high in oxalates. And despite the low activity of this site, I am so grateful for the archived threads still available.

Using alcohol flavoring and almond milk in Dateorade?

2018-01-28T19:28:51.000Z

I have one 2000 calorie date smoothie every day for my mid day meal. It consists of 30 raw medjool dates, 4ish cups water (or to desired consistency), less than a cup of almond milk (store bought), and a tiny little bit of natural mint flavor that is alcohol based. I got into this combo over the holidays because it tastes like a candy cane. Is this not good for me though long term? I do it every day right now. I should probably just grow some fresh mint. And the almond milk has the common fillers and a bit of oil, I just like how it gives it a slight creamy taste and then the dateorade doesn't separate, just wondering if using less than a cup really makes a difference in digestion or any other concerns doing this has?

grapefruit tarte raw vegan

2017-02-09T15:39:29.000Z

I want to share that awesome recipes: Grapefruit Date Tarte, Raw Vegan of course.

Its a friends recipe she runns a raw restaurant in vienna.

recipe is in german! Might need to translate it with google.

https://www.dattelbaer.at/2016/12/21/grapefruit-dattel-tarte/

Dates make me tired.

2016-08-15T01:07:39.000Z

Hi all. This morning I had a medjool date and banana smoothie, and I had instant drowsiness and fatigue. I almost got back into bed. Haven't felt that way in a very long time. But dates always do this to me.

I've noticed a few other people voicing the same concerns.

And yes - I've lived this lifestyle for a long time. I drink plenty of water (1L when I wake up, consistent water throughout the day). Rt4. Exercise at least 45 mins a day (fast steep hill hikes and squats). Carbing up, lots of fresh fruit, vege, cooked high carb low to no salt in the evening. I understand the lifestyle.

But dates just fuck me up. Anyone else recently experienced this? And also, have you found a way to work around it? I'm not the biggest fan of dates anyway (they're delicious but I've never felt great from eating them) but would like to understand this better, I'd like them to still be an option for me, you know?

Bulk buying in Portland OR?

2016-07-10T16:49:17.000Z

Hey everyone, I Just moved to Portland OR. I was wondering if anybody knows a great place to get bananas and/or dates in bulk. Any help would be much appreciated.Thanks

Aseel Dates

2016-05-05T23:02:36.000Z

I am trying to transition from a western junk diet to ultimately a 811 diet. I am slowly getting my body accustom to more bananas and raw fruit each day.

I ordered a big box of dates to help ease the cost of buying natural fruit and vegetables. They were Aseel Dates. Are these any better or worse than other kind of date? Did I make a mistake and get the wrong species? They seem really-really sweet, but then again this is the first time I have really eaten dates. It almost taste like they are pure sugar. Is that normal?

I double checked to see if there were any additives, but they just say pitted,dried dates.

Thanks for any help or advice.

-Tyler

Date site that listed many other date farmers and why they were not truly raw

2016-03-17T21:22:20.000Z

Hi,

I came across a Date farmer's site that listed many other date farmers and why they were not truly raw. I can't seem to find it at the moment, and before continuing my search or going with one of the suppliers I know, (which I might anyways due to positive past relationship and being able to ask him upfront about his current practices and the 'accusation'), I thought I'd enlist you all/see if any of you know of whom I speak. The page listed at least 10 other date companies that claimed to be raw, yet his chart indicated practices ranging from steaming, to spraying, to flash pasteurizing, you name it.

In addition, please feel free to share some recommendations here. Time's change, and an updated date sourcing thread could be useful. If you are a date farmer, feel free to share here as well.

Thanks.

Myths

2016-02-15T21:27:37.000Z

I know that protein " doesn't make you feel fuller for longer", but I never quite gave credit to fruit for filling you up so much. I ran out of bananas Thai AM and made a date and vanilla extract smoothy. I was convinced I was going to crash at 10:30( I drank it all between 7:30 and 8), but I felt so full I basically had to force myself to eat a fruit salad at 2pm otherwise there was no way that I could get 1500 cals from fruit in a day.So,Fruit FILLS me, much, much more than protein and,Avoid date smoothies because they fill me up too much!Any other fruit you find almost " too" satisfying?Xm

Always feel guilty eating dates... convince me I'm wrong!

2016-02-05T04:04:04.000Z

First time poster here. I've been raw til 4 since May 2015 but discovered dates within the last month (haven't been living under a rock, promise... it's that dried fruit never seemed appealing to me until recently), and I always feel so guilty after eating them; it's as if they're a forbidden junky dessert. I usually have 56 deglet noors after dinner (20cal/1 date.. so 1120 cals on these alone). I'm fairly active - I do cardio for about an hour daily - but I can't help shake the uneasy feeling I get from consuming these sugar bombs. Anyone else?

COLD CLIMATE VEGANS!! BEST SMOOTHIE RECIPE EVER!!

2015-12-06T21:42:53.000Z

Hey everyone from cold countries!!

You know when the weather gets cold and you really don't feel like drinking a cold smoothie or eating fruit you just want something warm but at the same time you wish you could have fruit or a smoothie! well NOW YOU CAN!! :D:D:D:D

I recently discovered and AMAZING WARM smoothie combo !!! it's sooooooooooooooooooooo good! it's high carb! low fat! kind of raw! and sugarlicious!!! perfect :)

If anyone has already discovered this i do apologise but i just got so excited when i first tasted it...!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-hXOjrv9qI&feature=youtu.be

One kilo of dried dates

2015-11-05T05:29:44.000Z

Hi everyone!So today I've had 4 oranges 9 apples and about 500g dates and will have rice and sweet potato for dinner.I kin of want to keep eating dates before dinner - if it came to 1kg (2 pounds) of dried dates would that be too much?? Am I just going a little overboard and crazy with dried dates??Thanks so much for any help! :)

monomealing dried fruit? CHEW CHEW CHEW

2015-09-19T14:11:10.000Z

people totally underestimate the power of thoroughly chewing their food, and then they wonder why their digestion is off. chewwww!!! look at children and look at how much they chew everything they eat, take note of it and learn from the ones who have the best digestion ever! (no one can beat a babies transit time, banana puree for the win haha!)

on a side note: invest in the higher quality dried fruit that is softer and fresher if you are having trouble digesting dried fruit. some of the stuff i see in the super markets is literally harder than a brick, but wayyy cheaper (or soak it for dayssss! haha)

MEDJOOL dates, which ones to choose??

2015-07-23T18:31:04.000Z

Hey guys, got a question on ''Medjool Dates''.

I'm a big fan of Freelee the Banana girl and she always adds these kind of dates to her smoothies. I love them too! I've been reading the packages of the ones sold at my local Moroccan fruitshop and some of them say there's 'Glucose Syrup' in them, is this normal? Is that why they're so juicy and sweet? Or are the natural ones also this juicy and sugary?

OR is added glucose syrop normal for medjool dates and not a problem for my health?

Thanks!

Jolien

Dates as a staple??

2015-06-30T13:04:45.000Z

hello :) I've been visiting this site regularly for a year but somehow just recently signed in. So first a little about me; I've been vegan for about year and half, hclf 6 months and now raw for a week. Last summer I was also raw for a while but didn't eat enough so..

Anyway my problem right now is about dates. I've been eating dates almost everyday for over 6 months now. They are here cheap (if you know where to buy) and easiest way to get enough calories. Bananas come next, but they always take over a week to ripen so I can't have them everyday. I know I should buy more of them and I will when I find someplace to buy in bulk with reasonable price. And other fruits are sooo expensive (organic, at least) like one mango is 1.70€ and I don't know 'bout you but to me that's too much.

Okay so back to the dates ;) Like I said, I've been eating them everyday, about 600g/day (that's one box). The box says 'fresh dates' but I've heard they are still considered as dry fruit. Somedays I eat more, somedays less, depending on what else I have.

So the problem is, is it okay to have dates as a staple? Because I watched some youtube videos about where there was talk about how they don't have water content and are indigestible and etc... But if I drink enough water through day (always at least 3 litres) and even though I've seen how they don't digest so well as other fruits, they might be the only way to keep me raw. Like today I haven't eaten dates, I've had a big green smoothie, 10-12 bananas and 600g of frozen mango chunks, which makes about 1500cal -the same amount as in one box of dates. Of course I will have dinner but I'd like to save my nanas 'cause they're not fully ripe and I don't want to eat just veggies because there's not enough calories obviously.

So I don't think I have a choice. Or is there something else than dates so I could easily get enough energy during day? Bananas of course, but like I said, right now I can't have them because they are still ripening.. Plus, would be nice to eat something else than bananas, frozen mangoes and greens all day everyday ;)

Thanks for reading, I hope I was clear enough and any questions will be happily answered!

HCLF Tropical Pina Colada Smoothie! Funny Recipe Video!

2015-03-08T01:23:25.000Z

school lunches and dateorade

2015-03-04T19:04:26.000Z

i need to know some fast easy cheap suggestions for ky school lunch, and also a cheap place to get good dates, and i would love to know a good dateorade recipie, thanks :)

I need to know if there are any non-vegan and/or non-raw preservatives used in dried fruit - particularly dates.

2015-03-03T18:35:54.000Z

I'm going to preface my questions by saying that I know dried fruit is somewhat taboo - I feel like asking them anyway. My questions arose in the bulk food section of an Asian market where I found some dates and other dried fruit without labels or anyone who could answer my questions as to their contents. My questions to the 30BaD community are as follows: Are there any kinds of non vegan additives that are commonly used which I should watch out for? What about non-raw additives? I know to watch out for sulfur dioxide because of its alleged negative health implications, but I don't really know much beyond that. I most importantly just want to make sure that I'm not risking buying anything non vegan when I buy dates and other dried fruit that isn't labeled. Hope none of this is too repetitive.

Carob Pudding

2015-02-18T02:24:03.000Z

I just posted a video recipe for carob pudding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxIYiBUcQxc&feature=youtu.be

Ingredients:

About 25 Khadrawy dates

Carob Powder

Vanilla Powder

Water

If you watch/try it, let me know what you think.

Do you have any other vegan/raw vegan pudding recipes?

Thanks and peace,

Pumpkin Pie Porridge

2015-02-15T01:16:34.000Z

I just posted a recipe video: Pumpkin Pie Porridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wININF-J00I

-Adapted from fitcurvyraw's recipe. (http://www.fitcurvyraw.com/)

If you watch, let me know what you think.

Ingredients:

30 Halawy Dates

1 Cup Oats

Can of Pumpkin Puree

Spices

Thanks and peace,

Strawberry Smoothie

2015-01-28T04:57:49.000Z

Hey,

I made a video for an easy strawberry smoothie recipe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3_4t2-mIxY

If you watch, please let me know what you think.

What is your favorite strawberry smoothie mix?

Thanks, and peace,

Ethics of dates?

2015-01-18T01:46:46.000Z

Given the prevelence of date consumption within this community does no one consider the ethics of their production? Given that most dates available conventionally in supermarkets are marketed as simply being produce of Israel, when the reality is they are produce of occupied lands. Israel continously fails to comply with international laws regarding human rights, and they destroy the plants and thus incomes of many farmers.

As vegans we should really be boycotting Israeli produce, instead of being so carefree with throwing dates into smoothies or snacking on them without any consideration it seems to the harm that such a product is causing not only to humans but by buying it you are promoting the occupation and all the destruction to beautiful plants that comes with it.

I understand this post was a bit of a ramble, and there is a wealth of information available online if you are interested or concerned about this. But if you can. buy dates that are listed as being a product of Palestine. If you can't and yet claim to be a peaceful, loving vegan then you really shouldn't be supporting Hadiklaim and the occupation.

How many dates do you eat on an average day?

2014-12-27T17:49:32.000Z

AS the title says, how many dates do you consume in a day?

Today I ate a whole 600 gram box of dates (1700 calories) and that was waaaay to much. I had the same feeling I had when I was a little kid and had too much candy, not on the same scale but you know what I mean.

500 calories from dates a day seems like a good idea for me at least.

How raw are dates?

2014-12-22T13:14:56.000Z

As the title says, how raw are dates?

From my understanding daglet noor dates are almost always steamed so they aren't raw but what about medjool dates and other varieties?

And, even if they aren't steamed or dehydrated are they considered raw even if they sit in the hot sun on the palm tress? The temperature in those regions goes well over 47 degrees Celsius sometimes, at least in the sun.

HELP!! Liver spots, protein, detox, retainer

2014-12-15T10:22:17.000Z

I have been following this lifestyle for around 7-8 months and have slightly been undereating on the protein (eating a lot of dates with only 2% protein, I have been getting enough calories though, 3500+ calories) because I recently had my albumin levels turn out low (have sent for the papers so I can see what the levels are). I turned 20 one week ago. Is it possible to mess with your development if you go with low protein levels 4-5 months, do I need to worry about that?I have several liver spots on my body, but I have had a couple of small new liver spots appearing on different parts of my body following this lifestyle, is this normal? Is it a detox reaction, releasing toxins faster than they can be eliminated? Or am I doing something wrong, I'm not weakening my liver am I? Or can it be related to low protein levels? Anyone with similar experience?Also, is it possible to pee out protein/amino acids if you drink too much water?Also :), will having a dental retainer in your mouth (metal wire) hinder detoxification?Thank You, guys and gals on beforehand! :D

Dates are cooked???

2014-12-10T16:40:41.000Z

So I've heard that dates could be cooked. Is this true? If so, how do you know if the dates that you buy are raw?

Thanks!

Dates are almost too sweet sometimes!

2014-12-09T19:07:07.000Z

As the title say, sometimes it feels like dates are way too sweet. I have a hard time eating more than 15-20 at a time without my mouth "burning" up. Am I the only one?

Thanks!

Super sweet Berry Mint smoothie (berry mint datorade)

2014-11-30T01:03:33.000Z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxAkOb1o1GE

Berry mint smoothie

Did I eat too much last night? Should I eat less today?

2014-11-29T13:27:55.000Z

So I woke up late yesterday and I had about four pomegranates for breakfast. Then for dinner I started out eating one durian but I was still unsatisfied so I had a pack of dates and I was STILL not satiated so I ate about five potatoes and then I felt full and satisfied but extremely guilty. I woke up this morning and I feel like I ate way too much yesterday and maybe I shouldn't eat as much today to maybe balance out yesterday. I feel like a glutton. Did I eat too much food?

7 Hot Dates!

2014-11-26T23:24:20.000Z

Hey,

Just posted a video about 7 Hot Dates!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7J4bk6YCi8

I would highly recommend the wet-pack Halawy and Honey dates. Khadrawy are pretty good firm or wet-pack, although the wet pack ones are super, super mushy and moist.

The Deglet Noor dates were super super dried out, and the Zahidi were pretty dry as well. Those I got pretty early in the season though, and the dryness may have changed by now. I would just give the farm a call to see what's up.

Check out the video for more if you'd like to.

Thanks and peace,

Vegan Roots

Dates?

2014-10-20T11:03:45.000Z

Hey all,

I know this is probably a silly question but I'm new-ish and I've been putting off getting dates because they are so expensive.

But finally I found a way to get 6kg of organic dates for around 50 euro where I live and I was just wondering if this is a good price? And more importantly, how long will they last?

I'm forever buying fruit and then having to throw it out because they get overripe and I'm afraid of spending so much money on dates only to have them dry up or rot. How long do they last?

And is 6kg enough? I don't even know, I'm sorry for all the silly questions! >__<

I'd be looking to have datorade everyday if that helps!

Thank you for anyones help!! x