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'The Need To Grow ', new film free! Bio-char and other cutting edge growing solutions

2019-10-12T18:19:31.000Z

https://grow.foodrevolution.org/screening/

The United Nations estimates that at the rate we are depleting our farmland, we have fewer than 60 years of soil left on Earth.

Can we feed the world without destroying the planet?

The answer depends on what we do now!

The good news is, there ARE solutions. The Need To GROW takes you inside the hearts and innovations of three very different leaders - an 8-year-old girl challenges the ethics of a beloved organization - a renegade farmer struggles to keep his land as he revolutionizes resource-efficient agriculture - and an accomplished visionary inventor faces catastrophe in the midst of developing a game-changing technology.

Narrated by Rosario Dawson (Marvel’s The Defenders, The Lego Batman Movie), The Need To GROW delivers an epic story of solutions and the struggles to implement them. It will make you laugh, make you cry, give you chills, and inspire you to participate in the restoration of the Earth.

Factory Farming

2016-05-04T00:32:26.000Z

Anyone know of any good books or articles on this subject and how it's affecting the climate?

Grow fruitarian food for animals to evolve into frugivores.

2015-08-23T05:31:26.000Z

Many animls could be fed well from a variety of the oil-palm fruits of the Amazon. I needs to find a helper to help me grow vegan-organic oil-palm based petfood in Australia. My email is
ahimsa.fruitarian@gmail,com
www.facebook.com/ahimsa.fruitarian

What 9,000 years of selective breeding has done to crops

2014-10-16T18:37:19.000Z

Article here: http://www.vox.com/2014/10/15/6982053/selective-breeding-farming-evolution-corn-watermelon-peaches

This topic has always been somewhat concerning to me. Yes, our ape ancestors evolved eating mostly fruit and for much of human evolution we had a lot of plants in our diet. But the plants we ate looked like these old ones, not the fruits of today. I just wonder what that means for our physiology.

Live Q&A: how can development support family farmers? Today

2014-10-16T10:40:30.000Z

Hi all

I'm newly registered here and thought I'd kick off my first post with a heads up about a Q&A today 13:00 - 15:00 (BST). Its though the Guardian Newspaper. May be worth a look in and spiel on responsible farming practice. Looks like an interesting panel, Ssssshhh just don't mention 'Cowspiracy'

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2014/oct/10/live-qa-how-can-development-support-family-famers

I'll be sticking my nose in.

PS. hope this was the correct forum area?

Land needed for all to be on 30-BaD

2013-04-08T21:52:59.000Z

If everyone on the planet were to eat 30-bananas/day the daily banana requirement would work out as

(7*10^9) * 30 = 210*10^9 = 210-billion bananas per day

which is 76650*10^9 bananas per year (76,650-billion bananas).

Assuming an average banana yield of 10000 kg/acre and a typical individual banana mass of 0.118 kg, a single acre can produce ~85000-bananas per year.

Therefore, the land required to feed the world on 30-BaD is given by

required number of bananas per year/annual yield

per acre = (76650*10^9)/85000 = 902-million acres

This converts to 3.652-million square kilometers, which is 1.41-million square miles of land.

This is the equivalent of approximately half the land mass of Australia.

The result seems a little high to me. The above calculations are only approximate, highly simplified, and based on a cursory investigation (about one minute of Googling without opening the links!). What are your thoughts? Is the accuracy acceptable? If anyone wants to compare the result with land required to feed the world on a standard Western diet, please feel free and post the results here!

Why Are These People Crying?

2013-03-22T17:59:24.000Z

from the peta files:

Why Are These People Crying?

in friendship,

prad

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Written by Michelle Kretzer

03-12-2013

Update: You asked for it—you got it. Because of the overwhelming response to this piece, we are publishing it once more to give our supporters a chance to share it on Twitter and Facebook and spread the message about the cruelty of factory farms far and wide.

The following was originally posted on November 9, 2012:

Paul McCartney famously said, "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian." So an intrepid group of animal advocates found a way to bring the slaughterhouse to the sidewalk. Every Saturday night, volunteers Jennifer Mennuti and Boyd Weidman screen PETA's "Factory Farming in 60 Seconds Flat" for passersby on Miami's busy Lincoln Road.

For many people, it's the first time they are staring into the faces of the animals they call "steak," "ham," or "nugget." There in front of them is the irrefutable evidence that their "entrée" was a cow who coughed and choked as the blood spilling from her slit throat ran down her face and covered the floor below, a pig who screamed and cried as he was burned to death in scalding-hot water, a chicken whose desperate squawks went unheeded as her broken legs were slammed into shackles and she stared past the long line of her comrades to the whirring blades that would end her life. A photographer caught some of the people's reactions, and it seems Paul was right.

PETA supporter Andrew Kirschner, who hosts a radio talk show about animal rights, published the photos on his blog, Kirschner's Corner, accompanied by the real-life experiences of slaughterhouse workers, taken from Gail A. Eisnitz's book Slaughterhouse: The Shocking Story of Greed, Neglect, and Inhumane Treatment Inside the U.S. Meat Industry.

"I could tell you horror stories… about cattle getting their heads stuck under the gate guards and the only way you can get it out is to cut their heads off while they're still alive."

"One time I took my knife – it's sharp enough – and I sliced off the end of a hog's nose, just like a piece of bologna. The hog went crazy for a few seconds. Then it just sat there looking kind of stupid. So I took a handful of salt brine and ground it into his nose. Now that hog really went nuts, pushing its nose all over the place. I still had a bunch of salt in my hand – I was wearing a rubber glove – and I stuck the salt right up the hog's ass. The poor hog didn't know whether to **** or go blind."

"I've seen live animals shackled, hoisted, stuck, and skinned. Too many to count, too many to remember. It's just a process that's continually there. I've seen shackled beef looking around before they've been stuck. I've seen hogs [that are supposed to be lying down] on the bleeding conveyor get up after they've been stuck. I've seen hogs in the scalding tub trying to swim."

"These hogs get up to the scalding tank, hit the water and start screaming and kicking. Sometimes they thrash so much they kick water out of the tank… Sooner or later they drown. There's a rotating arm that pushes them under, no chance for them to get out. I'm not sure if they burn to death before they drown, but it takes them a couple of minutes to stop thrashing."

"Hogs get stressed out pretty easy. If you prod them too much they have heart attacks. If you get a hog in a chute that's had the **** prodded out of him and has a heart attack or refuses to move, you take a meat hook and hook it into his bunghole [anus]. You're dragging these hogs alive, and a lot of times the meat hook rips out of the bunghole. I've seen hams – thighs – completely ripped open. I've also seen intestines come out. If the hog collapses near the front of the chute, you shove the meat hook into his cheek and drag him forward."

"Sometimes I grab it [a hog] by the ear and stick it right through the eye. I'm not just taking its eye out, I'll go all the way to the hilt, right up through the brain, and wiggle the knife."

"Pigs on the kill floor have come up and nuzzled me like a puppy. Two minutes later I had to kill them – beat them to death with a pipe."

"Only you don't just kill it, you go in hard, push hard, blow the windpipe, make it drown in its own blood. Split its nose. A live hog would be running around the pit. It would just be looking up at me and I'd be sticking, and I would just take my knife and – cut its eye out while it was just standing there. And this hog would just scream."

"I seen guys take broomsticks and stick it up the cow's behind, screwing them with a broom."

"He'll kick them [hogs], fork them, use anything he can get his hands on. He's already broken three pitchforks so far this year, just jabbing them. He doesn't care if he hits its eyes, head, butt. He jabs them so hard he busts the wooden handles. And he clubs them over the back."

"I've drug cows till their bones start breaking, while they were still alive. Bringing them around the corner and they get stuck up in the doorway, just pull them till their hide be ripped, till the blood just drip on the steel and concrete. Breaking their legs… And the cow be crying with its tongue stuck out. They pull him till his neck just pop."

Do people ask why you're vegan? Maybe it's time to share this video with them:

Then perhaps it's time to ask them the real question: "Why aren't you vegan?"

WWOOFing in America--Anyone know any great farms to WWOOF at?

2013-02-23T01:08:26.000Z

I want to WWOOF this summer, but I can't afford a plane ticket to Hawaii, so I'm stuck on the mainland. (;

Does anyone here have any experience with WWOOFing? How did it go; what was it like?, etc. And does anyone know any specific farm(s) that they particularly loved volunteering on (and were good places for fruitarians to stay at, with lots of delicious fruit!)? I live in Florida, so closer would probably be better in terms of cost (although, I've always wanted to go to California!).

Thanks for any help! Any advice or personal experience whatsoever is greatly appreciated. (:

Shannon

Anyone know a good place to order organic mangoes from?

2013-02-22T11:13:34.000Z

Mangoes are my absolute FAVORITE fruit, and I live in Maine, United States, so there is no way I can grow my own :( Does anyone know of any organic farmers that ship boxes of mangoes?

Student WWOOFing

2013-02-02T13:39:41.000Z

Does anyone know if WWOOFing is acceptable to turn in for student volunteer hours (in Florida)? I wasn't sure since volunteers get room and board in exchange for their labor.

Thank you for any help!

Shannon C.

Human farming - The Story of Your Enslavement

2011-09-29T02:29:51.000Z

This Freedomain Radio vid by Stefan Molyneux is a must watch:

Permaculture! What are your thought about it?

2011-08-24T18:36:40.000Z

So 30BAD also deals with the environment and Permaculture seems to me to be the best solution for really the worlds foods problems. Is there anyone in our midst that is applying a permaculture design to there urban, suburban, or rural home. If so please post a video! For the rest of us it is just like our diet decision, knowledge is power so lets share resources and information about this wonderful design process!

Cheers

Scott

Cool Opportunity

2011-08-20T21:21:21.000Z

http://youtu.be/5s4YbLPSKtY

Exploding Watermelons in China!

2011-05-18T16:37:29.000Z

Anyone else hear about this? It is crazy! Are chemicals the main cause? When will farmers realize that chemicals cause more problems!

Article 1

Article 2

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In New Food Culture, a Young Generation of Farmers Emerges

2011-03-08T05:56:49.000Z

Never mind that they might be producing some items we don't personally consume; anytime our young generation takes interest in producing food for themselves and others, I see it as hugely positive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/06/us/06farmers.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage

CORVALLIS, Ore. — For years, Tyler Jones, a livestock farmer here, avoided telling his grandfather how disillusioned he had become with industrial farming.

After all, his grandfather had worked closely with Earl L. Butz, the former federal secretary of agriculture who was known for saying, “Get big or get out.”

But several weeks before his grandfather died, Mr. Jones broached the subject. His grandfather surprised him. “You have to fix what Earl and I messed up,” Mr. Jones said his grandfather told him.

Now, Mr. Jones, 30, and his wife, Alicia, 27, are among an emerging group of people in their 20s and 30s who have chosen farming as a career. Many shun industrial, mechanized farming and list punk rock, Karl Marx and the food journalist Michael Pollan as their influences. The Joneses say they and their peers are succeeding because of Oregon’s farmer-foodie culture, which demands grass-fed and pasture-raised meats.

“People want to connect more than they can at their grocery store,” Ms. Jones said. “We had a couple who came down from Portland and asked if they could collect their own eggs. We said, ‘O.K., sure.’ They want to trust their producer, because there’s so little trust in food these days.”

Garry Stephenson, coordinator of the Small Farms Program at Oregon State University, said he had not seen so much interest among young people in decades. “It’s kind of exciting,” Mr. Stephenson said. “They’re young, they’re energetic and idealist, and they’re willing to make the sacrifices.”

Though the number of young farmers is increasing, the average age of farmers nationwide continues to creep toward 60, according to the 2007 Census of Agriculture. That census, administered by the Department of Agriculture, found that farmers over 55 own more than half of the country’s farmland.

In response, the 2008 Farm Bill included a program for new farmers and ranchers. Last year, the department distributed $18 million to educate young growers across the country.

Tom Vilsack, the secretary of agriculture, said he hoped some beginning farmers would graduate to midsize and large farms as older farmers retired. “I think there needs to be more work in this area,” he said. “It’s great to invest $18 million to reach out to several thousand to get them interested, but the need here is pretty significant. We need to be even more creative than we’ve been to create strategies so that young people can access operations of all sizes.”

The problem, the young farmers say, is access to land and money to buy equipment. Many new to farming also struggle with the basics.

In Eugene, Ore., Kasey White and Jeff Broadie of Lonesome Whistle Farm are finishing their third season of cultivating heirloom beans with names like Calypso, Jacob’s Cattle and Dutch Ballet.

They have been lauded — and even consulted — by older farmers nearby for figuring out how to grow beans in a valley dominated by grass seed farmers.

But finding mentors has been difficult. There is a knowledge gap that has been referred to as “the lost generation” — people their parents’ age may farm but do not know how to grow food. The grandparent generation is no longer around to teach them.

So Ms. White and Mr. Broadie turned to YouTube for farming tips. They scoured the antiques section of Craigslist for small-scale farming equipment.

“When we started, we didn’t even know what we needed,” said Ms. White, 35. “We found out that a tractor built in the 1950s would drive over our beds and weed them.”

She said that they farmed because they felt like part of a broader movement, but that the farmer’s life was not always romantic. Last year, their garlic crop rotted in the ground. Mr. Broadie, 36, is unable to repay his student loans. They do not have health insurance, or know when they will be able to afford to buy land.

On a recent Saturday, Ms. White and Mr. Broadie moved to a farm owned by a couple that wants to support local agriculture. They hope it is their last stop.

That evening in Corvallis, the Joneses prepared for a party at Mary’s River Grange Hall with friends.

Among them, Jenni and Scott Timms, both 28, had quit their engineering jobs in Houston the month before. They would like to own their own farm someday.

“We see people like Tyler and Alicia doing it, and we thought, ‘If they can do it, so can we,’ ” Mr. Timms said.

The Timmses had arrived at the Joneses’ 106-acre farm the day before and were staying in a run-down Victorian house on the property. As they waited for their hosts, they sipped a microbrew in a kitchen overlooking wooded farmland. They said they were drawn by the state’s beauty and its 120 farmers’ markets.

And it seemed that other beginning farmers in Oregon shared their values. At the Grange hall later that evening, the gravel lot was lined with Subarus with bumper stickers that read “Buy locally,” “Who’s Your Farmer?” and “Let’s Get Dirty.” One farmer arrived by bicycle.

Inside, women in woolen sweaters and hats danced to the music of a bluegrass band. There was no formal speech, just the Grange master’s yell that food was ready.

The Grange master, Hank Keogh, is a 26-year-old who, with his multiple piercings and severe sideburns, looks more indie rock star than seed farmer. Mr. Keogh took over the Grange two years ago.

He increased membership by signing up dozens of young farmers and others in the region. He had the floorboards refinished, introduced weekly yoga classes and reduced the average age of Grange members to 35 from 65.

The young farmers crowded around a table brimming with food they had produced — delicata squash, beet salad, potato leek soup and sparkling mead. On a separate table were two pony kegs of India pale ale.

It was the first time the Joneses had been to the Grange, and Ms. Jones said they would probably join. She had already told the mead makers that she would connect them with Portland restaurants that wanted local honey.

“Literally, four years ago, this was not happening,” Ms. Jones said, gesturing to the 30 farmers who congregated at the hall. “Now, everywhere you turn, someone’s a farmer.”

A River of Waste ~ factory farming harms everyone's health! ~ a must see video

2010-12-04T14:52:40.000Z

This video describes the health problems related to factory farming - as Earl Butz said: "Get big, or get out."
Factory farming causes untold health risks to *anyone* living in the United States, and wherever these practices are in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WAGf-4gC8

Please post your thoughts about this video, and don't forget to recommend it to everyone you know!

"Making the Connection" - Beautifully produced documentary on all reasons to go veg

2010-11-05T19:40:29.000Z

Gah, vimeo won't led me embed the vid without paying, watch here: http://www.environmentfilms.org/EF/Making_the_Connection.html

Great new 30min UK documentary film summarizing health, ecological, and ethicalarguments in favor of veganism. last 2 segments in particular are very well done (**disclaimer for the undercarbed, part 1 does include cooked food *gasp*). the ethics part is a perfect summary of the abolitionist/animal rights approach, and explains why there's no such thing as 'humane' eggs/dairy/meat, even if its free-range/organic. Again leaves us only to ask why everyone isn't already vegan.. help spread the msg and show to all your friends/relatives/mortal enemies! :)

[Produced by Environment Films environmentfilms.org in association with The Vegan Society.]

Natural Hygiene, Organic Farming, Fasting... free eBooks

2010-04-30T11:38:07.000Z

Hi there,
I wanted to share with you my recent discovery, the soilandhealth.org website which is a FREE, internet library containing a massive collection of e-books about Natural Hygiene, Organic Farming, Raw Food, Fasting, etc.

Please be aware that it is not a fruitarian or Low Fat Raw Vegan oriented library, hence several books may not go well with our views.

Maybe those of you, who already know some of those books, could recommend certain positions or authors, so it is easier to select the right title?

EDIT
I've made a survey which can help us pick the best books from this free library. This survey is in 4 pages and is divided into sections like those at soilandhealth.org.
Please only select titles which you recommend.

Please help others to choose a good read. The survey won't take much time and you can always quick-scan it if you wish and select 2 or 3 books. Every vote counts!

Click here to take the survey

Because this account at Survey Monkey is free I am unable to show instant results.

Thanks!

Fight renewed against monastery's farm practices

2009-12-29T20:53:25.000Z

this just in from peta about farming practices:http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/rss/article/903244with opportunities to write to the telegraph-journal:http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/onsite.php?page=contact#Cif any of you have any doubts at all about what goes on inside agrifarms, look at the videos in wendy's thread:How horrible a choice man has made ...in friendship,prad

Cacao / Coconut water as plant food?

2009-10-22T15:53:47.000Z

If cacao is one of the best and abundant sources of magnesium and coconut water has calcium, magnesium, potassium and phosphorus... Couldn't we fertilise our plants with these foods? I'd be interested to hear your experiences with feeding and treating plants/soil with organic raw foods...Without composting.Honey, dates, pomegranite? kelp, dulce, avocado,Thoughts?

80/10/10 friendly WWOOF farms in California?

2009-07-22T13:05:58.000Z

Hi everyone-I've been seriously contemplating a journey down to Cali to work on a farm.I was wondering if anyone here had any experience WWOOFing in California, and/or if anyone can recommend good farms for a hungry 80/10/10'er to look up for a space and free fruit in exchange for 20-25 hours a week?Thanks in advance everyone.Love and light,James

Organic Farming Illegal - Farming Bill HR-875, CODEX ALIMENTAR

2009-03-26T21:34:44.000Z

This is a flyer I just created to post around town. I also included tabs for numbers to call the capitol switch board (202-224-3121, USA ONLY) so people can call and say no way!IMPORTANT:ORGANIC FARMING ILLEGALBill HR-875 and CODEX ALIMENTAR· Criminalizes organic farming.· Illegal to grow food without permits, including backyard!· Livestock must be fed anti-biotics.· Cows must be fed growth hormones and anti-biotics.· Will not allow composting and/or vermiculture (worms).· Legislation is extremely broad with use of terms.· Labeling for GMO products will be illegal!· Unless food is local and raw, irradiation will be mandatory!· The CODEX considers nutrients to be dangerous, toxic chemicals!· Permits the use of veterinary drugs, hormones, herbicides, and pesticides at extremely high and dangerous levels.· Eliminates nutritional medicine using therapeutic levels of nutrients to promote health and prevent illnesses.· Can receive fines up to $500,000 for not obeying.· Organized by WHO, FAO, WTO, American FDA, USDA.· Section 103 of bill HR-875 will appoint officials from factory farm corporations and classify them as experts, while allowing them to determine and interpret the extremely broad legislation!· Section 206 of bill HR-875 defines what will be considered a food production facility and what will be enforced upon all food production facilities. The wording is so broad that a backyard gardener could be fined and/or more.· Section 207 of bill HR-875 requires that the state’s agriculture department acts as food police and enforces federal requirements.· President Barack Obama supports this bill!!!Check out www.healthfreedomusa.org to see what you can do to help! Call the capitol switch board at (202)-224-3121. Tell your legislature to stop the farming bills HR 875 and S 425 -(USA ONLY)DONT WAIT, CALL TODAY! THE PLAN IS FOR THIS TO BE ACTIVE 12/9/09 - GLOBALLY! (HR-875 is USA - but CODEX is global!)

Starting edible garden at local youth facility. Need advice!

2009-03-24T00:59:49.000Z

So I'm starting a program at a local youth center (YMCA actually) that is getting the children involved with planting an edible garden, consisting of veggies, greens, fruits, flowers, trees- both fruit and nuts. Also, Im going to start worm bins there to teach them how to properly dispose of their food scraps, and utilize everything.Does anyone have any good ideas/ projects I could do with them? Or does anyone know how to write up a proposal? I have already had the green light, but I dont think they are totally aware of all my plans. I want to approach them with a "proper" propsal written out in a well educated form :)I dont want them to shut down the ideas of planting berries all along the south east facing hill, getting worm bins, putting up apple, pear, peach, cherry, walnut, hickory, etc all over the place. I gave them ideas of how serious I am and what I want to do, but I hope they dont think Im just putting up some dinky little veggie bed (which is better than nothing).Has anyone done something like this that can point out what they enjoyed, or what they would change to make it a more succesful project? I want to make this as best as possible because I am moving in a few months. I want someone else to be able to take over while everything is almost completed. I also want the children to be able to know whats going on for the most part by the time I leave so they can rage it without troubles, and hopefully start something at their own homes!THANKS!!!

Sustainable Living, A new way to life, Rebuilding mother earth... Please check this out :)

2009-01-18T07:07:45.000Z

These videos I find very inspiring. It has to do with a farm in Austria that is 100% sustainable. It is a farm of permaculture. There is no mono-cropping, no anything.This farm is pretty much set up to forage. It has minimal negative impact on the environment, but such a large positive impact!It is time we utilize the space we have. If we all work together, we can build mother nature strong enough to rebuild Herself!"New ways to farm part 1/4"New ways to farm part 2/4""New ways to farm part 3/4""New ways to farm part 4/4"