grains - Forum - The Frugivore Diet

Too many grains?

2015-08-05T04:05:02.000Z

I'm not necessarily RawTil4, although somedays I do have a monomeal of fruit for lunch and/or breakfast, is eating grain at every meal going to hinder my results as a HCLF vegan? ie. oats for breakfast, sandwhich on whole grain/wheat bread for lunch and rice for dinner

What do you eat for cooked carbohydrates?

2014-12-28T04:39:19.000Z

I see potatoes, rice, and corn pasta all being pretty popular here. I am curious as to which, if any, other cooked carbohydrates are well-tolerated on this diet.

I currently enjoy steamed winter squash and sweet potatoes, cooked legumes, millet, buckwheat, and quinoa. The millet and buckwheat are especially well-tolerated (I have candida issues). Might any of these be fitting?

I am also hoping to eventually try blue and purple potatoes, black rice, wild rice, and oats. I don't eat corn (I am sensitive to mold) but would also like to indulge occasionally in pasta. What are the thoughts here on brown rice pasta, or this legume-based pasta here: http://www.tolerantfoods.com/#!product-list/c18gl ?

- Thanks

Spouted Legumes and Grains?

2014-12-28T04:32:58.000Z

Wanting to stay as raw as possible, yet satisfied, for my first few months on this diet (I am turning to this for health issues) I was wondering if it might be alright to add some sprouted legumes (lentils, chickpeas, adzuki beans) and buckwheat to my foundation of fresh fruits and greens? I am a big hummus lover, so some sprouted hummus would nice on occasion, and I already love dehydrating my own sprouted buckwheat cereal.

Also, might some oil-free dehydrated sweet potato chips be suitable as well? I by no means intend for my diet to become heavy on dehydrated foods, but I've found these great when I'm wanting to add some crunch to my diet.

Any thoughts or guidelines with these foods?

Wheat and grains on Rawtill4?

2014-06-17T04:20:56.000Z

On raw till 4 cooked starches are promoted. but what about grains like wheat and other things? whats bad about them cooked? i know that we don't get old quality wheat, and haven't since the 1840's or so with the invention of refined flours and new cousins to wheat that are stripped of everything that used to be good, but theoretically, is there anything in the wheat kernel itself that is so bad cooked? According to John McDougal science has proved that even gladiators ate grains, and lots of them, so much so they were nicknamed the barley men. what about sprouted grains? (wheat and others) I'd love to learn more about that if anyone has solid info. I need to weed out the facts from opinions.

A week of cooked vegan...with little fruit

2013-06-17T01:04:45.000Z

I am going to Isle Royale next week for 8 days with my venture crew and father. I convinced him to let me eat vegan the whole trip and luckily I am with a group of vegetarians. BUT I will be eating mainly (no sodium added) rice, oatmeal, pasta, freeze dried fruits, vegetables, and these berry bars. I am afraid since I have been eating a 85% raw vegan diet (other 15% ruined from seaweed) and switching to a grain dense diet will shock my system.

I leave on the 20th, should I gradually eat more grain? Should I be 100% anyways until the trip? The last camp out we tried out what we are going to eat on this trip and I felt HORRIBLE the next day. I broke out, had no energy, gained weight (probably water retention. "love handles" appeared and belly is sooo bloated.), constipation (and still am, no matter how many ripe bananas), and my period returned. I lost it about a year and a half ago and eating grains for 2 days brought it back. PLEASE HELP! :(

Refined Starch/Grain Addiction

2012-10-18T21:24:24.000Z

I know that I am seriously addicted to grains such as cereals and bread. How has anyone dealt with this during transition? How long did the intense cravings last? What would be the best substitute? I know "fruit" in general, but perhaps, one is best to calm this craving.

I actually get nausea and faint if I go too many hours without some kind of grain.

Many years ago I transitioned so slowly I did not even notice, but I am attempting a quick change (cold turkey, they call it) this time to get back on track ASAP.

Thank you for any advice.

Grain Damage quote by Dr. Graham

2012-09-26T12:45:37.000Z

I just finished "Grain Damage" by Dr. Graham and I saw this quote:

"Before we began farming grains, the human population doubled approximately every twenty thousand years. Today, our population is doubling out of control: once every twenty years."

My question is, what does this mean? I feel like the answer is right in front of me but I just don't get it.

Cooked food calories-Little help over here(:

2012-05-23T01:34:16.000Z

Yo, (: this is the deal:All I want is dateorade....crazy bad. I love it...I could live of haha.Everything BUT dinner has been HCRV with no overts.But dinner man...money is tight. And I know I gotta get those calories in!I'm averaging a little over 3,000 each day. With cooked high carb dinners.. Potatoes, quinoa, rice.It doesn't feel great, my body tells me the next morning. White tongue, slight morning breath, don't feel as hydrated. That kind of nasty -.- it always leaves after my liter of water, and breakfast (dateorade 20 dates, 2 liters of water) but my questions are, with cooked dinners will results still come? And out of every cooked startch, which one is least destructive?I honestly don't want to eat cooked dinners. But it's better than starving.And I have camping coming up! It's gonna be crappy, but I am for sure sticking to high carb vegan. The RAW part is gonna be hard. Wish me luck! And thanks for any answers! <3

Pain in hands/joints after eating salt/grains

2012-04-29T20:41:42.000Z

Hello!

So I have been hcrv for a few months, sometimes I will eat some cooked grains (like brown rice or whole wheat pasta) and the past few days I;ve been out and about and sloppy and also ate things that contained salt, still hcrv, but yeah, grains and salt. And my joints seem to be a bit annoyed, is there a relation between salt and/or grains and this burning annoying feeling in hands/fingers?

Perhaps I got sensitive to it since i went high carb raw vegan, because when i was cooked vegan before for years i never had this...

Would love insight from you fruities! :D

Love, as always <3

i CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE, and i need help!

2012-01-03T21:58:28.000Z

my parents are threatening to control what i eat out of the fear that i have an "eating disorder" even though i eat 2-3k calories a day, which is a ton for someone my size (5'3")
my dad is a mcdougall supporter, and has an obsession with whole grain. all the time, it's all i hear - "you need more whole grain, whole grain, blah blah EAT YOUR BREAD"

of course i don't.
i need articles that talk about why grains are bad for you and how fruit does not spike blood sugar any more than bread does, and i can find plenty online, but not from reliable sources.

if i don't get some info to fire back at him, i'll be forced to eat oatmeal at breakfast, tofu sandwiches for lunch, and rice and beans at dinner.
i'm gonna cry. someone help me out of this.

i "need" grains and beans...

2011-08-25T15:26:51.000Z

my family, with good intentions, is pushing me to eat more grains. my parents tell me all the time that i'm worrying them because i'm "too restrictive" and i'm "cutting out way too many foods". it's getting to the point where they're threatening to get me help for an eating disorder, over refusing bread. keep in mind, i am NOT under eating either- 2500 to 3000 calories a day for a 5' 3" sixteen year old girl. i KNOW grains and beans and all that isn't great; i feel like crap when i eat it, i get indigestion...the works. but i still on average have to have one cooked vegan meal a day (i manage to stay in the 80/10/10 ratios, somehow). but all the fruit i'm eating doesn't fair well with the cooked rice/beans/sprouted breads/tofu :(

my dad, also a vegan, says i NEED to eat more things like tofu, bread, and oatmeal. :( i need articles that prove the stuff is crap, without being over scientific.
help?!

80/10/10 book has got me thinking

2011-06-09T18:09:27.000Z

I am currently reading the 80/10/10 book and just finished the chapter on fats. This is totally a shot in the dark here... Do you guys think it is "gluten" or "fat" that causes people to have problems (menaing IBS/any autoimmune). Now I am not refering to GMO grain or anything. I mean think about it not many people could ever even try to go raw (but that is whole another issue)--so they continue to eat overt fats. Would love to hear some opinions?

Fruit while eating not 100% raw...

2011-02-10T01:14:56.000Z

... I know fruit does not make one fat, especially not on a 100% raw 80/10/10 diet, but I would like to hear your opinions on the following, it is an idea I have and yes I'd like to hear what lfrvegans think about this;

Currently I am not living 100% raw, I do live vegan and have for a few years and I have flirted with lfrv back and forth and in general I am not a big fan of vegan junk food - because I feel just because something is vegan doesn't mean it's healthy, in fact, I think a lot of vegans live off of pre-packaged overprocessed junk, and that is definitely not healthy. Anyway, so I know that eating lots of fruit on a 80/10/10 diet is absolutely ideal, but does the "eat as much fruit as you want" still count when you are eating some cooked vegetables, grains and fats? Like I said, I do not think fruit is bad, but I do wonder if in combination with cooked grains especially, fruits are a less ideal combination and perhaps, yes, fattening. I know that if it in fact would be fattening, it is the fault of the cooked grains and not the fruits ;) but irregardless, I wonder if the combination is fattening. I am very active and I am not not 100% lfrv because I claim I "can't", because can't doesn't exist. I am not 100% yet because I am not ready yet :)

I would like to hear from everyone who has an opinion on this!

Thanks for reading!