rawtil4 - Forum - The Frugivore Diet

Smoothies vs whole foods

2021-01-31T12:57:53.000Z

Hey everyone! I'm new here and hoping to get some advice. I would love to try fully raw food! However, I live in Canada and such a lifestyle is pretyy expensive (I hope to oneday build a greenhouse when I own my own home).

So, in the meantime, I was thinking raw til 4! I look at Freelees results and I'm just in awe, and have also really struggled with other diets.

My only concern is the smoothies. I've heard of studies that say smoothies are actually not very good for you, and that eating the foods in whole food form is most ideal... But when I try to cram in as many calories without the aid of smoothies I find it very challenging...

Hoping to get advice :)

Sinusitis and expensive surgery! Help!!

2016-06-22T06:14:14.000Z

Hey so one of my friends has chronic sinus inflammation and it keeps him up at night with coughing and drainage and he went to the doctor and they gave him some phamplet saying he has inflammation and I was wondering if raw til 4 would help reverse this? The doctor said some balloon sinus surgery (which I forgot what it was called) was the only fix for it. But the problem is, he's a college student and has to pay out of pocket over $4000 for this! Can someone give me tips on how to help him? And also note he is very overweight and follows a SAD diet but has been eating less meat and stuff ever since we became buds lol

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How Much Exercise should I get?

2016-02-04T01:07:13.000Z

How much exercise should I be getting if I'm a short female eating 2500 calories a day?

My diet isn't all raw fruits. I eat more like a half starch solution half raw. Around 1000 calories raw and 1500 cooked because I'm a broke a$$ college student. haha

I feel full on like 1800 when I do like a 30 min walk that day, should I be aiming for 2500?? Please help. lol

Also please note that I do workout and I'm just at that point where I would like to "firm up" some places haha

Banana Island

2015-08-30T01:11:12.000Z

Hello

Im after some advice,

Ive been vegan for 1 week shy of 12 months.

Started eating 70/15/15 style for about 3 months now more 80/10/10 raw till4

Ive always had acne, it has cleared up a bit since becoming vegan probably gotten 70% better but i still get it.

Im getting married in 5 weeks and wanted to try banana Island to hopefully have clear skin. Not to impress anybody but myself. Im happy with my body, its just you'd think at 23 and a clean eating vegan it'll be gone for good.

I exercise regularly, cycle 2+ days a week and run 2+ times. Drink 2-3L of water

Id like to know peoples experience and what they recommend, Im in Melbourne, Australia and don't have a large variety of ripe sweet fruits at the moments so i was planning on having banana as my staple.
I was thinking of doing it for 4 weeks, beginning in 1 weeks time

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
David

Yakon Syrup?

2015-03-06T19:42:34.000Z

To help with repairing my immune system, I was told to take a probiotic. Most are made with animal products but I heard of Yakon syrup and it's supposed to provide probiotics. Would it hurt or hamper my results on this lifestyle?

How Screwed am I? (thyroid problems)

2015-03-04T21:33:50.000Z

So I just watched Durian Riders video on how Kayla's Diet program will screw up your thyroid and you shouldn't take the medication, just carb up.

Well, my problem is... I've been on this medication since I was around 10 and I'm almost 21 now! I tried weening myself off the medication over the summer and all I did was gain 30 pounds in a month.

I'm currently on it again and my weight still has not changed at all.

Does anyone have any advice for me??

Standard American making moves

2015-02-27T00:06:21.000Z

Hey everyone- My name is Nick, I'm from the US, and I've gone through phases of being a vegetarian and then vegan. I ended up falling off of it because I was not educating myself fully, and ended up malnourished. When my attention was brought to a raw diet, I was immediately intrigued, and felt that it made sense to me. I've struggled endlessly with digestive issues, and want to feel good knowing that I am doing my body good.

It has been about two weeks on a mostly raw/raw til 4 style way of living. A lot of people say that this lifestyle does not have to be expensive, but I find myself spending quite a bit of money. Yes, granted, I did stop huffing on an electronic cigarette (saving me about $60 a week), and I'm not going out to restaurants, so these little bits definitely help keep some cash in my pocket.

It seems that I'm eating a lot of oranges in the morning, usually followed by a banana smoothie, and then I bring about 64 oz of smoothie with me to work. When I get home I'll have a cooked meal, hang out, and then sleep. Yes, there are issues with the way my day is setup. I work in the restaurant industry as a server (no, not ideal, but it has to work for now), and my schedule is more like wake up at 11am, and be at work from around 4pm to midnight or so.

I'm here looking for advice, tips, tricks, helpful/intelligent conversation, and whatever else we all may have to offer one another! I'm currently reading Doug Graham's 80/10/10. Some issues I find are: cravings for sweets (cakes, cookies)... also things like ranch dressing... It has been about 2 weeks, but I feel like it's breaking an addiction!

Thanks, and looking forward to meeting all of you!

Nick

NEW TO RT4! Who else is new and wants to do this together?

2015-02-11T03:45:28.000Z

Hi everyone! Thanks for readings this :)

I have been doing rawtil4 for a little over a week now but I am still new to it and experimenting. I'm loving it so far and really want to stick with it but it always helps to have other people to talk to that you know are going through the same journey. I would love to start this discussion board to discuss experiences, results, diet, etc and to just get to know others! Of course this is open to newbies and experienced people. Who's in this with me?!

Also if you're in the Baltimore area, give me a shout!

Trying to go raw but not feeling satisfied.

2015-02-06T21:03:03.000Z

Hey guys,
I'm currently doing the standards rawtil4 finding it very easy to have fruit all day then cooked for dinner. I want to go more raw though. Thing is i find it really hard to be fully raw, even for a day. By the evening i just feel so hungry. Even if i have a 10+ ripe banana meal for dinner i still feel unsatisfied and sick of bananas.
Does anyone have any advise or tips to help please.
after a whole raw day i just feel hungry, even though my tummy is full.
Do i just need to get used to being fully raw, and push through the desire to eat cooked? like, will that go away after a few fully raw days?
Thanks very much in advance for any help :) xxx

proving the diet works

2014-12-29T20:41:45.000Z

just to prove this diet does work i was 45kg last week and i was underweight then and now two weeks into the diet i a now 43kg again but eating unlimited calories which is great even though my family still think i have issues and that i need to be sectioned for being a high carb vegan I'm what the f***? does anyone have any advice i could give them?

interesting high carb recipes

2014-12-29T09:23:47.000Z

does anyone have any good high carb raw tip 4 recipes to share?!

how many times should i be exercising

2014-12-27T11:25:14.000Z

hiya i have started to up my calories after coming from a restrictive background, today i decided to take it upon myself to do a few mile bike ride and found myself getting out of breath when going up hills. will this begin to go away as i begin to build my fitness back up again?..after being stationary for a month the only movement i was doing was mucking out my horse occasionally when my mum was convinced i was well enough to!

i now just want to prove to my family i can now start exercising again without going back to my restrict past and also benefit the planet as well as my health...i have missed going out and moving i can see that it has really motivated me, but when i am back at school i can only really walk for 20mins a day and then on weekends muck out, ride and also go out for longer walks/bike rides, does this sound like a enough physical activity to start building me up again?

Narcolepsy

2014-11-11T23:34:34.000Z

I just typed a long post and then accidentally deleted it and it was gone forever, so that was cool. Not. Anyway...

I was diagnosed with narcolepsy without cataplexy two years ago. Most people think of narcolepsy as a joke, as it is portrayed in movies, but it's not funny to people who have it.

After suffering from excessive daytime exhaustion for years I had a sleep study which revealed that I fall almost immediately into REM sleep when I fall asleep and contrary to popular belief, more REM sleep is NOT better when you don't get enough "deep" or "slow wave" sleep. I refused to accept this diagnosis because the prognosis is terrible. "No cure" and "no known cause" but suspected to be autoimmune related and brought on by a virus or a trauma, generally in ages 15-20 is when it begins to manifest.

I stopped taking adderall 4 months ago, and the sleeping pills I was on, because I am trying to become healthy, but I have little energy or motivation to even shower, let alone stick to the raw til 4 diet (as much as I want and intend to, getting to the store is even a large task for me right now). This is not withdrawal. This is something wrong with my body or brain that was there before adderall ever came around.

My question is: has anyone cured narcolepsy with the raw til 4 or HCRV lifestyle? I so want this to be the solution but everything I read screams against it. They claim that a ketogenic diet (basically paleo) has helped narcolepsy patients. Nothing seems to help me. I eat a generally healthy vegetarian diet. I'm trying to find the motivation and inspiration to stick with raw til 4 but it's very hard with my poor sleep and extremely low energy levels. I know it's a shot in the dark to find someone with narcolepsy on here, but please...someone, anyone...inspiration please?!???

Thinking on getting on antidepressants for a short time so I can get my life together...

2014-11-03T08:58:40.000Z

(keeping it short trying not to rant)

"I plan to take these (antidepressant) pills, accomplish my goals, get a steady job for a while, ease myself off and then with the money from my job I can overload my system with top quality plants foods/fruit...."

Read on...

I am a recluse and have no energy to get a job, this has been the case for the past few years... there are so many tasks I need to accomplish it all piles up and I never do them... I made a new friend today(online) and he is telling me I should try antidepressants/ anti anxiety medication. He studied psycology in college and told me I likely have a chemical imbalance. I don't deny that but I think/know it can be remedied with fresh fruit/rawtil4, exercise, sunshine, etc. I always feel amazing after I do those things, BUT I am broke, and exhausted... I just can't get the fruit in... I don't even have the energy to apply for food stamps... (I don't want to rely on them, but don't have shame in using that aid the help with my life) anyways... my life is just an endless list of tasks, I don't want to get a job, until I sell all my clutter/useless possessions, I can't sell those things until I get a better working laptop, I can't get a better laptop cause I'm broke>< I am so tired and confused all the time... but enough of that i don't want pity... I am just wondering if you think I should use the chemical drugs that I may be able to get for free from my dad's health insurence. What damage will this do to my body and can it be detoxed out? I just need the energy to get shit done in my life... I'm tired of being a loser living at home... fruit is ideal... but I have zero dollars... today all I had was two fish tacos someone left in the fridge. Other than minimal plant foods my parents buy, I live on rice. I feel like I am just surviving day to day... and have no energy.... anyways... I may try these pills, my friend was really incouraging me to. Even though I hate pills...

Please tell me why they are unhealthy... I may not sound very smart but I am (once again, just tired..) I can understand the science of the pills and all that. Please link some legit articles.. I plan to take these pills, accomplish my goals, get a steady job for a while, ease myself off and then with the money from my job I can overload my system with top quality plants foods/fruit.... also i can finally buy that road bike I've been dreaming of... and a new laptop to make youtube videos... etc... i can finally start living my life! Traveling, etc..

My oreo addiction is jeopardizing my raw til four lifestyle... help!

2014-08-20T00:24:03.000Z

Hey everyone! i'm new here and i joined mostly because I've been wanting to go raw til four for a little while now.

The thing is I'm a senior student in a very, very academically demanding school and I'm also preparing to do the tests that will allow me to get into uni. So I get home late and go out very early. I try to distance myself from junk foods as much as I can because I really want to be healthy and fit but after school when I go to the institute where I'm preparing for uni I get soooo hungry, and apples and bananas don't seem so appealing as they do during the day.

So I go to the store with my friends and buy oreos, because they're pretty much the only vegan junk food that's easily bought in any store and that's actually affordable (because I don't know about your countries, but where I live being vegan costs A LOT)

So yeah, I really want to stop feeling like I "need" junk food, even if I know my body and soul don't,

any suggestions on what I can replace them with during my late study hours?

(sorry for the long post, whoopsies!)

cheers

¿Rant Session?

2014-08-08T04:24:41.000Z

Hey fellow fruit lovers! I guess I just made this discussion/conversation for anyone who has a complaint or a little bit of a rant for those who aren't vegan. For example, my brother is definitely an egg eater and a meat eater! Every night at 11 I wake up because the smell of eggs fill up the house. He eats seven eggs at 11 o'clock. it drives me so insane! And he doesn't clean his pan afterwards, so there's egg sitting in the pan sitting in the sink all night. So when you wake up the whole house smells like rotten eggs! I want to puke every morning LOL and I just can't stand it! Does anyone else have any rants? Hopefully I'm not the only one

One week into it!

2014-07-03T22:51:41.000Z

Hi everybody,

So I'm one week into this lifestyle and I couldn't be more grateful to have a community like this! However, this week was tough. I had final exams and all I wanted to do was binge on the normal gross food I reach for when I'm really stressed out. Instead I compromised and ended up eating my cooked meal a little bit earlier on in the day (like 2pm or 3pm.) Is that terrible or am I being too nit picky?

Do you guys ever eat your cooked meal early due to that comfort feeling it provides?

Thanks for your advice!

Lauren

Any HCRVs in Indiana?

2014-06-17T12:38:46.000Z

Hey all,

I am wondering if there are any like-minded folks living in Indiana. I am an active HCRV looking to meet other vital fruit-loving people! Let me know if you're in the area :-)

Fruity love,

Taylor

In a Sticky Situation...

2014-06-12T22:32:24.000Z

Hey everyone! So, i've only been a Raw Til 4 Vegan since the 25th of May, but I still need to tell my dad, step-mom, and step-sisters that i've chosen this lifestyle! i really don't want to do his because i feel like they'll be worried about me, question every thing i do, and don't forget the awkwardness! I know there are plenty of people who are reading this and are like, "TELL YOUR DANG FAMILY!!". But its really hard for me. Probably because i'm in this completely alone. Anyways, the reason i have to tell them NOW is because were heading to D.C. in around 10 days and i'm so excited to go again (went to the inauguration last year). The problem is, I can't just go buy 10 bananas for breakfast and lunch! They'll probably flip when they figure out that I eat fruit for lunch. Any words of wisdom for any of these situations?

Much Appreciated! :)

Help Please! Raw, Rawtil4, or banana island for gut, autoimmune and inflammatory disease? Which approach do I take for a healing protocol?

2014-05-04T03:15:14.000Z

Hi there,

I just started transitioning to a HC mostly raw lifestyle the past couple weeks and have a host of health issues I need to get under control.

Just to give a history for context Ive tried literally everything so far and have been sent away by to many practitioners. At my last naturopathic appointment I was told we need to stabilize things in 6 months to a year, at the latest. I have MCAD (mast cell activation disease), which is causing a host of symptoms and sensitivities including IBS, leaky gut, being sensitive most foods and chemicals, hot air, hot water, stress, some forms of excercise, histamine intolerance, salicylate sensitivity, allergies etc. Im only 22 and have been eating loads of veggies for years, rarely eating meat and no rancid oils or anything. I went paleo for a while, anti candida diet, vegetarian, sugar free etc. Its all just gotten worse. Ive tried almost every natural supplement out there and react to most.

To get back to my question, I need some advice on where to start? There are only a few fruits that I can eat without reacting: Bananas, Mangos, and peeled purreed golden delicious apples, and a few dates when blended with bananas or mangos.

I have a hard time with raw veggies unless juiced.

Is there an anti inflammatory protocol for those of us with these issues? I go back and forth between thinking maybe i should try banana island, then thinking maybe it would be better for my body to ease into it more slowly?

If anyone has any advice I would SO appreciate the help :)

How wonderful to find a community of people dedicated to living in true health!

Saying "hello" and asking for some guidance...!

2014-04-24T00:22:01.000Z

Hi there, I'm Samsam...

I'm 21, been vegetarian since fourteen and vegan since eighteen. I've struggled with my weight for my whole life, and am here to change my life for good.

I've dabbled in 80/10/10, McDougall, etc... and always fail due to fear of calories, overeating etc... but I want to change my mindset and finally break the cycle.

I've read 80/10/10, The Starch Solution and Eat To Live (Joel Fuhrman), and Freelee's ebook.

I know HOW to do this - I just need some help.

My main concern is the reactions of those around me. I know I shouldn't care what they think of my diet/lifestyle, but I've been sensitive about my weight for so long that other people's opinions of my eating habits etc. really affect me.

For example most people around my are stuck in the low-carb paradigm and really shame me for eating loads of fruit, or potatoes etc. and due to already having a lot of issues with my relationship with food, this really hurts me and hurts my progress.

What advice can you give me for getting past this?

Has anyone else experience similar issues with food shaming?

So excited to start my journey...

Exercise in Cron-O-Meter

2014-04-17T07:46:58.000Z

Hey everyone,
Just wondering who adds their daily exercise into cronometer?
Do you worry about the calories being subtracted from your intake total?
Or do you just use chronometer for your food and keep workouts separate?

Any info would be great. Thanks guys :)

Success eating Raw till 4?

2014-03-16T16:07:05.000Z

I'm new to this HCLF vegan lifestyle, about a month in and a total of 5 months as a vegan. I'm also 16 years old. I do not buy the majority of my food, and instead rely on my mom. There's really no viable way for me to get enough calories through totally raw because of cost, so I eat raw through the day and then get half of my calories through a cooked meal( usually potato wedges, mashed potatoes, or corn pasta, sometimes oatmeal, or rice) around 5pm.

I know this is not the ideal diet, but all my food is organic and it's much better than a typical SAD diet. I see so many stories of people thriving on raw, that I was just wondering if anyone had success eating cooked meals on top of raw.

By the way, I'm 5'7,125lbs, & I'm getting around 2,000-2,300 cals in a day, but I plan on upping that because I'm quite active and have been craving more fats lately.

But any advice & tips are welcome! (:

Acne on raw til 4

2014-02-25T03:45:12.000Z

I have awful acne that I have continuously tried to get rid of. I am still transitioning to a raw and raw til 4 lifestyle but have been vegan for 8 months already. I use an acne medication (I'm stopping it soon) and wear face makeup. I used no medications for months before I started the medication and my acne just kept getting worse and worse. I thought the medication (proactiv) might help and it has helped slightly but not enough and I don't like using these chemicals on my face. Has anyone successfully healed their acne on raw til 4 or will cooked foods make my acne worse? I need major help and am willing to cut out products including makeup I just need to know there's hope and any specific foods to avoid!!