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Running into problems when trying to throw out bathroom products

2013-01-30T17:48:51.000Z

I decided it is time to bin all the chemicals in the bathroom. I'd like to get my hair used to not using shampoo and don't want to do any more dying etc.
I made sure to have apple cider vinegar, baking soda at home and also bought a bottle of dr bronners ("Dr. Bronner - 'S Magic Soaps Pure-Castile Soap, 18-In-1 Hemp Unscented Baby Mild").

Using shampoo and conditioner, my hair is in "ok" condition but not awesome: I used to dye it, until 3 or 4 months ago, I used to have psoriasis on my scalp and our water here has lots of limescale in it. (We are not able to purchase a filter system atm.)

Since the last time I dyed my hair it got greesy very fast, I have to wash it every two days. On top of that about 2 months ago (I was already low fat raw vegan then) I started getting little spots on my scalp and my scalp feels very sensitive. These reasons and that I don't want to use any products from companies that test on animals are why I need a change.

My first experiment:

Last night I used a small amount of dr. bronner's soap on my hair.

The problem:

My hair immediately started to feel kind of sticky. I tried to wash it all out and used apple cider vinegar as conditioner. I did not wash it out. My hair was in horrible condition, even after it was dry it was still sticky and oily and weird.

2nd attempt:

I went back to the bathroom, washed it with watered down Dr. Bronner's and conditioned it with very very much watered down apple cider vinegar which I rinsed afterwards.

2nd bad result:

The hair was slightly less oily but still rubbbery and once it was dry, I looked like a scarecrow :)) the hair stood in all directions and it felt really really bad.

3rd attempt and giving up:

I gave my hair a night's rest and this morning I tried watered down baking soda but hair still felt sticky, so I decided to use shampoo and conditioner this time. I must say, I was a bit scared to ruin my hair at this point. After using the conditioner I put watered down apple cider vinegar over the hair and washed it out. This was to test if the apple cider vinegar is causing any issue. My hair is "fine" now.

So now I really need some advice. I am in the UK and couldnt find a source for Tate's products. Also I would prefer to go shampoo-free if that is even possible in a hard water environment without filter.

Did I buy the wrong dr. bronner's product? Is it bad for hair after all? Can I be shampoo free although my hair was previously treated and although our water is hard?

Oily hair and baking soda instead of shampoo

2012-11-22T14:04:21.000Z

I have tried washing my hair with baking soda a few times now...its been a little over a week. The first time I was amazed, 3 days later I washed it again and it was kind of ok, but my hair didn't feel that great. Last night I washed it for a third time with baking soda (and ACV after, as I saw suggested) and it was just gross and oily after it dried. I can feel a thick residue on my hands when I touch it now.

Today is Thanksgiving...my mom will yell at me if I have oily hair today LOL. If this is a transition phase, I don't want to screw it up by using shampoo today, but I can't let my hair stay this disgusting. What should I do?

-Becky

Make own, natural beautyproducts?

2012-08-19T13:26:56.000Z

Hey there,

has anyone experience in making things like shampoo, peeling or bodylotion itself? If yes, what do you use?
I know that most of you only use water and nothing more, but for an extra treatment (and with the extreme dry weather here in spain) I could use some moisturizer.

Has anyone ideas?
Also, which shops - if any - would you recommend to buy natural cosmetic? I only know lush, but I'm not sure if they are as good as it sounds. The body shop seems to promise more than it keeps....

Thanks in advance :-)

Steffi

Unbearable Hayfever despite staying 100 % LFRV! Please help....

2012-07-11T09:36:42.000Z

Hi everyone,

where can I begin? This whole week I lost my voice and in the beginning had also a sore throat (hurt to swallow even though I drank sooo much water and ate like I usually do, except I would've loved to have eaten ore greens!), sniffles, sinus-infection (coughing, throat clearing, and occasionally coughing up phlegm).

I handled those problems with drops of eucalyptus- and pinetree-oils, which helped the sore throat tremendously, but has opened up my sinuses significantly, and I have been blowing my nose

I just donated blood for the first time and am undescribably happy with how "super" the doctor said my levels are and that I'm appropriate to donate blood (even if only for full blood and not plasma / better than nothing!). I also managed to hide my sniffles. But now I realise I definitely have just hayfever now, although every now and then my voice becomes scratchy, but usually goes away with water drinking. My ears are stuffed too, but my main problem is hayfever. I'm always having to blow my nose and rub my eyes.

I've also had constipation too, despite how much I eat and drink!

I still use shampoo, conditioner, face cream, and deoderant (all vegan), but I want to soon free myself from them. I almost did that for this summer holiday, which I'm still on, but was a dumb coward and ended up postponing it due to my loving yet SAD best friend. I talked with her about how great lots of people are doing poo-free, but she was grossed out at the idea and spoke only negatively about that.

^^I mention that because I read an old thread that say parfums can cause hayfever.

Regardless, I am 100 % 811-lfrv for 2 months (officially tomorrow) with no slip-ups or bad cravings whatsoever, drinking often 3-4 liters of water, eating over 3500 calories daily, no overts, no oils, no salt, or anything nasty like that. Only mono-meals of fruits and greens.

Do you know of any good vegan remedies against hayfever??? I would take something that I could use externally, but when orally ONLY when it neither messes up 811 nor goes against 811.

I am grateflu for any help!

Many thanks in advance!

how to go no poo ?

2012-06-29T10:23:51.000Z

Im doing my second attempt with going no poo. first time I tried it I simply rinsed my hair with water, and it was a disaster ! my hair got so greasy from it that I didn't feel like leaving my apartment. and it wasn't even dirty beforehand !

so now I wanted to try out the baking soda-approach, hoping for a more gradual transition. - I don't mind my hair being a little greasy during this phase, but I don't want people to think that Im insanitary either ;)

SO today was my first day. It has been 5days since my last hair wash, although normally Ill wait 7-8 days in between washing. I wanted to break the wash-cycle a little early so that the risk of my hair turning out like last time, would be smaller.

step1 - I mixed 3tbs of baking soda w 150ml of water.

step2 - after rinsing my hair in warm water for a couple of minutes, I put the mixture in my hair and massaged it in for another cpl of minutes, and then I rinsed it out completely.

step3 - panic ? I must say that my hair feels really thick and unmanageable ! It hasn't dried yet, so idk how it will turn out, but experience tells me that when it feels like this wet, it wont improve much in its dry state.

what do you say ? do you think that I need to just stick it out, and maybe wash it everyday for a while w the baking soda until my hair adjusts ? or should I try adding lemon to the mixture maybe ? Im open to any suggestions and/or stories of experience

thanks fruities !

Before Going Noo Poo

2012-03-18T12:09:27.000Z

Hello all,

My name is Maor and I would like to discuss the no-shampoo issue, which I have been reading about extensively lately. A short introduction: In my highschool years I suffered from exhaustion and used to skip showers every now and then, and I ultimately learned from experience that there was no harm in abstinence from body soap and stopped using it altogether. Naturally, I began to doubt the need for shampoo, but when my hair became greasy after a short no-shampoo period I gave up. I have come across information on the subject lately and would be glad if you can help me sort things out:

1. Some of the no-shampoo adherents wash their hair with baking soda and vinegar. In my eyes this is effectively substituting one unnatural substance with another one, and the option of water-rinsing only appeals to me more. Is it actually preferrable?

2. If I use water only, I understand that I would need to scrub the scalp from time to time. What is the frequency?

3. I have read about the transition period, when the scalp becomes extra greasy. Is there a way to relieve this condition?

Many thanks,

Maor.

shiny hair? Who has it with no use of shampoo?

2012-02-10T01:45:50.000Z

It is now about two and a half weeks since i used shampoo/conditioner. Hair is soft but not as shiny as I am used to. I have been washing with water each day and have used lemon twice in that time. This morning I decided to 'bite the bullet' and not wash with water as I figure that if i did that with my dogs I would expect the oil balance to be affected. So my question is for those who no longer use shampoo etc is your hair shiny and healthy looking and if yes, how long did it take to get there?

Best Natural Body/Face/Hair cleaners!

2011-10-01T21:14:45.000Z

I have now finally found the best things to use in place of everything i was using for my body, face, and hair!

Shampoo- Calcium bentonite clay

Face Wash/Makeup remover!- Olive oil

Toothpaste- Aluminum free backing soda

Exfoliation- face: one of those little foot scrubbing brushes, body- tampico skin brush (dry brushing entire body every day)

Next i will be no longer using bad chemical hair dye, instead i bought henna to keep my hair red because thats how i love it :)

No Poo methods

2011-08-19T16:11:56.000Z

I've been washing with baking soda/water and rinsing with apple cider vinegar/water. I heard about using clay though, which worked as a shampoo and conditioner. I bought some type of aztec clay and tried it- didn't work so much, still needed vinegar to detangle and my hair felt like it had clay in it.

Did I use the wrong type?

Any other shampoo/conditioner methods? Just looking for the easiest solution with best results. Also, note your hair type- I have wavy hair with some curl.

Thoughts on going shampoo-free...and other personal products

2011-03-30T16:22:42.000Z

Although I use all vegan products, I've been pushing around the idea of ending the use of shampoo and other products like lotion, deodorant, etc...however, I have some questions.

Is it too early for me to transition? Although I went LFRV last spring/summer, I've had cooked food since then and have only been 100% raw for the past month. Although I'm doing great I think that choosing to go product free may give me incentive to keep it up...although this isn't the only reason for me doing so. In addition, I'm nearing the end of a bottle of shampoo and would like to stop shampoo after I finish the current bottle, since it takes me forever to go through a bottle of shampoo.

I run daily. Will I be able to wash my hair, with water, everyday? Do you scrub your scalp? How often?

Although I'd like to go cold turkey, what are your experiences like? Do you recommend baking soda/lemon juice? And if so, how often?

Do you ever blow dry?

As for other personal products such as deodorant, lotion, or lip balm...I personally think I can drop the deodorant. After transitioning to vegan options I've found that they aren't the best at covering up smell anyway, so it won't be a loss.

My biggest concern is lotion/lip balm. I live in Ohio (cold climate, especially in the winter months). It's an ongoing battle with dry skin, even with lotion. What do you use? I've seen others use coconut oil. Although I'd love to get away from any products, I'm looking for any ideas to point me in a better direction.

Any other input would be greatly appreciated!

No Shampoo, how often wash with water?

2010-10-08T03:11:27.000Z

Hi,

I have been without shampoo for a few weeks and am wondering how often everybody washes their hair with water or baking soda?

Thanks for reading

No Shampoo, No Face products update picture

2010-09-28T06:12:13.000Z

It's been a week since I washed my hair or got it wet. I have been brushing the oils through my hair twice a day and it barely looks greasy.

It's also been 4 weeks since I quit birth control and all face products. Only water 3 times daily when I look greasy. and a clean towel exfoliation at night.

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What do you do to your doo? Poo? No poo? Fruity poo?

2009-01-14T02:49:26.000Z

What do you do for your hair?How do you take care of it?If you go no poo (shampoo or chems) what did you do about the detox residue?Dry scalp?Oily scalp?No scalp? J/K lol ;)How often do you wash it?What kind of water do you use?Do you oil it?Hot water or cold?What kind of brush or comb do you use?What is the 411 on your hair??