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Why Does Soy Reduce Estrogen Levels In studies?

2017-12-14T02:10:06.000Z

Soy is widely known in health circles as pro-estrogenic and feminizing and men are recommended to avoid it. If that’s actually the case, can anyone explain why serum estrogen levels actually decrease in soy-supplemented groups in studies in both men and women? And why is there an inverse relationship between hormone dependent cancers such as breast and prostate cancer (I suppose all cancers are hormone dependent) and soy consumption? Here are just some of the studies I’m talking about:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8770469 - 36-oz of daily soymilk consumption for a month significantly decreased serum 17 beta-estradiol levels in premenopausal women.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9839524 - Estrone and estradiol levels were decreased by 23% and 27% at the end of the study in the soy milk supplemented group in Japanese women. The change in estrone and estradiol levels was minor in the control, non-soy group.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11303585 - Serum estrone concentrations decreased in the soy-supplemented group in Japanese men. There was no change in testosterone levels in both the soy group and the control group.

Is it that the estrogen circulation in blood decreases from soy but estrogen level inside the cell increases? Is that why soy is so widely considered as ‘estrogenic’?

Is soymilk bad to drink?

2014-03-22T23:16:34.000Z

Is soymilk bad to drink? I love drinking it but im not sure if it has too much protein or if its just too much fat. What do you think?

Mayans of the Campeche Region of Mexico have just won a two-year legal battle to get rid of Monsanto and their GMO soybeans (suicide beans)!

2014-03-22T17:23:47.000Z

Following the ban of GM maize in Mexico, this ancient and agriculturally savvy culture has won a major battle against biotech monopolies around the globe.

The Second District Court ruled in favor of three Mayan communities from the Hopelchén township who dared to take on the Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock , Rural Development, Fisheries and Food ( Sagarpa) and the Secretariat of Environment and Natural Resources ( SEMARNAT).

This means that Saragapa now must make a concerted effort to be sure that no GM soybeans are planted throughout Pachen and Cancabchen communities in Hopelchén. Just two years ago, the same agency allowed Monsanto’s RoundUp Ready GMO soybeans to be planted in the region – infecting more than 253,000 hectares with suicide seeds that cause human infertility and poison the environment.

Seven states were under Monsanto’s reign – free then to plant their GM seeds wherever they liked within those borders, including the municipalities of: Campeche, Hopelchén , Tenabo , Calkiní , Escárcega, Carmen and Palisade.

In just a few of these places, the authorities were angry that the government had given Monsanto authorization, and they decided to fight the ruling. Campeche beekeepers were especially upset since this would affect bee-keeping negatively in the region. They called Monsanto’s influence, ‘pollution of production,’ resulting in loss of income and closing of markets for many bee keepers with international contracts.

After two years of litigation, and arguing that the planting of GM soybeans was in direct opposition of traditional beekeeping practices, AND that it was in violation of their right to a healthy environment – pointing out that increased use of herbicides and deforestation were both outcomes of GM planting – the Mayans won their case. These small indigenous communities have taken on the multi-billion-dollar biotech and Big Ag companies and won. They are an example to us all.

http://www.nationofchange.org/mayans-win-huge-battle-ban-gmo-soy-crops-1395501128

Channel 4 Food Hospital - Propaganda (Milk)

2011-11-02T20:26:24.000Z

Watched some of Channel 4's "Food Hospital", there was a woman who had (still has?) breast cancer, she decided to eliminate œstrogens from her diet by removing meat and cow's milk (GOOD), but she had changed from cow's milk to soy milk which has phytoestrogens that mimic œstrogen, which increase cancer (also leads to earlier puberty in females and decreased sperm count in males). I do not remember what was said about meat, if anything.

http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/factsheet/diet/fs1.phyto.cfm

That is a different topic to what I want to focus on, which is that the presenter said there was no study linking cow's milk with cancer formation - I thought of all the studies cited in The China Study showing casein causes cancer.

Please post scientific literature and studies that show the link between cancer and cow's milk (and other species' milk) - I wonder what effects regularly drinking human milk has on adults...

http://www.purewatergazette.net/milksucks.htm

China Study - Veganist - Bill Clinton - Not Milk - Resource-Based Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF_rTrMuKEw