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Gingivitis/ Gum and teeth issues- any advice?

2021-02-23T04:17:30.000Z

Good day everyone!

I have been vegan since I was 15 years old (I am now 23) and I was raw vegan on and off when I was younger. I have symptoms of gingivitis since about a month ago and have seen dentists, but they don't have any suggestions for me to heal gingivitis other than flossing and brushing which I am currently doing.

Has anyone experienced gingivitis, if so, what did you do to heal?

I am currently a vegan eating cooked foods, perhaps eating a fruitarian/raw vegan diet would help?

I am using natural mouthwashes and doing salt water rinses and oil pulling currently, but it isn't helping yet.

Any help is much appreciated!

Thanks everyone <3

Tooth stains

2017-07-30T22:03:37.000Z

Does anyone else get stains on their teeth from eating greens. Buy the time I go to my yearly dentist checkup my teeth are really stained, they scrape the stains of with some tool and my teeth look nice, but within weeks I notice my teeth turning yellowy again. Finally last winter I was so embarrassed I took a darning needle and scraped the stains off, it took a while but it worked, now I do this frequently, usually with m fingernail but sometimes the needle too. I can't imagine it's got for my tooth enamel

My teeth are turning brown!

2016-01-30T15:23:02.000Z

Hi guys!

I'm RT4, been several months. Recently I have seen there's brown stains on my teeth. I brush twice a day with fluoride-free toothpaste and floss once a day. Always flush my mouth with water after eating too. I think they are from dates, I eat them pretty much every day but I have done so for about a year so I don't know what is going on. I've tried to brush the stains more and even scratch them but only some of them have lighten. I feel like there's more every day.

I'm going to dentist soon but they would probably blame all the sugar, so do you have any ideas what's happening?

I also don't drink coffee or anything like that.

Thankss.

Does anyone oil pull?

2015-10-10T10:48:51.000Z

I did for a few months aaaaaaaaaaaaand good and bad news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D1GWPMqWIo

Acidic fruit

2015-09-10T19:31:41.000Z

I have been consuming a lot of acidic fruit lately, for example I just ate a pineapple and two oranges. I want to ensure that my tooth enamel will not wear away as I've often read from eating high carb vegan. How can I prevent that and take the best care of my teeth whilst still eating acidic fruits??? CUZ I LOVE THEM

Teeth Plaque/Tartar since becoming High Carb Vegan

2015-08-20T03:41:32.000Z

I became vegan at the beginning of last year, around the same time I switched to using a non flouride toothpaste.

Since then I have noticed I get alot of plaque/tartar on the back of my teeth, no amount of brushing will remove it. I visit the dentist for a clean, he removes it but it comes back. I've tried various non flouride toothpastes but the problem persists. I'm not sure I'm getting more of it because of the high fruit content of my diet or the fact I don't have a flouride toothpaste.

Dentist sometimes asks if I drink coffee/tea which is weird because I quit all that, yet my teeth were better when I did drink it.

Can anyone offer any advice?

Diet Tips for Weak Teeth

2015-03-10T12:55:40.000Z

Hey all, my names Jo - Nice to meet you.

Firstly, I want to make clear I am not blaming this lifestyle for poor teeth.

(I have been very overweight for most of my life and a definite binge eater, so obviously that's the main contributor for sure. )

Anyway, last year the pain started and basically 10 fillings later, a root canal and receding gums my teeth aren't what they used to be...

Any one who has teeth problems will sympathise with the stress and upset that i'm currently feeling; everyday there's a new pain and sensitivity.

Could people who can relate to this please offer me tips on good tooth care products (I hate using P&G, Johnson etc companies) alternatives to sugary/acidic foods on this diet and so on?

My current routine:

- Electric toothbrush in the morning and evening for 2.5 minutes

- Floss and Mouthwash in the evening, occasionally mid day too.

- I plan to take up Oil Pulling starting tomorrow.

- I eat 3 times a day and avoid snacking, try to eat fairly quickly and swill with lots of water.

- Only try to eat my fruits ripe to avoid acidity (although eating fruit is now scaring me more and more regardless!)

PLEASE do help if you can! VERY appreciated <3

It feels like the end of the world which is ridiculous and I need to get a grip but the pain, fear of losing my teeth, future relationships being affected by my dodgy smile and dental costs is consuming my mind.

Thanks x

Wisdom teeth are having to come out. Any tips and/or tricks?!

2014-12-29T19:07:25.000Z

Alohas. I put off getting my wisdom teeth out until after they came in just to see if my body would figure it out. Unfortunately they came in but not all the way and developed cavities fairly quickly and now they are starting to decay. So to preserve myself and my other teeth from infection and decay, im choosing to get them outThe painkillers and antibiotic situation is bugging me out some. The oral surgeon won't be honest and tell me if they are all optional or not. They just say this is the normal procedure and this is what everyone does. Which doesn't cut it for me and is super annoying.So i might get the painkillers just incase something goes wrong and drink coco water and probiotics instead of the antibiotics. But then they want u to take a pill to make you1r mouth dry and also a muscle relaxer before the surgery. Idk....I read an old post on here about eating tons of pineapple the night before to help with inflammation which I think I'm gonna do. I also liked hearing about the garlic tricks too.Anything you feel the need to share about this whole process would really be appreciated. My goal is to make as few compromises to my health and normal practices as possible.Cheers!

OH NO NOT THE TEETTTTHHH. Need advice!

2014-12-16T01:20:06.000Z

Hi Fruity Folk!

Today i went to the dreaded dentist visit. Last time i went there was 3 years ago. yOU HAVE TO DRAG ME AND FORCE ME TO GO THERE BECAUSE I SIMPLY HATE GOING THERE.

In the past i've gotten fillings and teeth cleaning and both experiences are so f^$%$^ng stressful i literally want to cry after.

Today i had to go because my mother forced me to get a CHECK UP since our insurance is ending soon.

I DID. and i'm in so much misery.

The doc CONVINCED ME I MUST get a teeth cleaning if i want to keep my teeth down the road.

THEN he tricked me into getting like 3 or 4 FILLINGS! I by naive nature did not expect such HORRID and painful and uncomfortable experience.

then he said i need three more on my right side..

BUT MY TEETH FEEL FINE! THEY ARE FINEEEE!!! i never had any pain or problems with my teeth.. i feel like my mouth has been seriously abused without me realizing what was about to be done.

He also mentioned my 4 WISDOM TEETH that i muuuust remove them down the road.

I DONT WANNA. BASICALLY I DON'T WANT TO DO EITHER OF THESE: THE CLEANING, THE OTHER 3 FILLINGS AND THE SURGERY!

i really don't feel good about doing it, i'm afraid, but also i want to make sure my i'm doing everything to keep healthy.

please help me, i need some comfort in knowing i will be allright if i DON'T get the fillings... and etc.

:(((((

Dental care products - recommendations?

2014-05-23T11:52:02.000Z

Hi guys!

I'm starting out on this rawtil4 diet and I'm doing great so far.

I live in Denmark and since it's a small country the market is limited in all areas, especially in alternative health products.

I've heard some Raw food people talk about "tooth soap" and "tooth powder" and I'm curious and want to try these things out.

I have no experience in this area at all and when I search the internet all I find is confusingly many different products.

Which one gives the best results?

Which product can I trust?

Which one should I choose?

If some of you lovely people could give some advice on this I would be very grateful. Also it would be great if anyone had a link to a website that also ships the products to Europe.

Lots of fruity love

Ida

I'm going for a mix of vegan + tooth health diet

2014-05-08T15:26:54.000Z

I was on a vegan lifestyle for 4 months now. It was fun. It was interesting. It was cleansing. I learned many new things, found a totally new section of youtube I did not know before. Found compassionate people and new books. I listened to Dr. Gregor, Dr. Graham, Harley, watched tons of videos about diet, vegan, and health.

Also I have 2 cavities now. Haven't had any cavities for ... can't remember the last time a dentist said something. At LEAST 15 years. And I go see a dentist every 1/2 year for checkup.

I bough the book "Stop tooth decay" from Ramiel Nagel, and it seems to make a lot of sense. I'm going to try that. For general discussion, let me paste one paragraph from his website:

"Successful vegans in general seem to be either previously overweight people who then go vegan or people who had amazing diets as children with lots of high quality animal products, and then go vegan as adults."

let me post a photo from someone who was overweight and had lots of high quality animal products as a kid:

Not judging. Watching Harley's videos is part of my day and I learn a lot from him. He inspires me in many ways. I watched today and will tomorrow, and will keep following you and be part of this.

But now it's also about my teeth. And I have to find the best diet for my body, mind, AND my teeth. I'm not a religious person, therefore I will strictly follow what works, and leave my mind and feelings out of the equation.

Here's the link to the tooth book, for discussion:

http://www.curetoothdecay.com/Tooth_Decay/tooth_cavity_vegan.htm

Teeth seeming yellower?

2014-03-28T10:30:01.000Z

I've recently (about a month) switched my toothpaste from a normal store brand to a flouride/bleach free Tooth Powder by Ecodent. *Which is this* I love the way that my teeth feel after brushing, but lately I've noticing that my teeth are getting yellower! This is causing some self esteem issues. :( Right now I'm only brushing once at night,(flossing after meals as well as doing the swish and spit with water ) should I also brush in the morning before any food? What is it that actually makes teeth go yellow, and what does 30bad suggest that I do?! I've heard about the strawberry trick, that had never worked on me.

PLEASE, my teeth need you guys!

"80/10/10 sucks... if you don't live in Hawaii, Thailand or California."

2014-02-10T08:28:08.000Z

Hello.So, my brother ate fullyraw for a week or so too. He's never read 80/10/10 and just followed a bit of my advice. So far he was doing great, told me he felt better than ever etc... but today after i got up he told me that he couldn't sleep bc he had been worroed about his teeth. Apparently there were black dots all over his teeth and they'd gotten really sensitive. And then he started off about how much 80/10/10 sucks... if you live somewhere like in europe and not in hawaii or thailand or california, where you can eat fresh RIPE fruit. He said that the fruit you can get here contains way too much acids and other unhealthy substances because they were picked unripe and are usually being unnaturally ripened afterwards. So now he goes back to eating potatoes, sproute grains and sourdough bread. But I don't wanna believe that. Sure my teeth have also been a little sensitive sometimes, but that didn't stay longer than a day and you could also argument that i am eating a lot of smoothies, which could be a reason why less fruit and acids stick to my teeth.I do agree that it would be SO much easier if we lived somewhere like hawaii, but i still believe in this lifestyle.... even here, in Switzerland. I know that the food that would be natural for us has been denatured and isn't as healthy as it once was, but i just don't want to believe that it has come so far that one couldn't even eat a healthy hcrv diet when he lives somewhere like europe without getting problems... isn't it possible that he ate too many citrus fruits (at last he told me to not eat the kiwis and the citrus bc they're really not ripe)? Or that his body is still too acid bc he is still detoxing and has got all of that overleft foods and toxins in his body that he used to eat? Also, he's got a pancreas insufficiency, if that changes anything.I just don't know what to believe now and I hope that you could give me some reasonable advice....Thank you.

Fading enamel : Should I get resin composite covering or leave as is?

2014-02-07T18:32:05.000Z

Hello everyone,

I just returned from a visit to the dentist. My last was in 2011 and the dentist back then agreedthat my diet was healthy and that my teeth were remineralizing.

Today this is what my inferior incisive and molar teeth look like:

I rince my mouth after every meal and brush 1-2 times a day with a soft vegan brush and water.

This new dentist said that the dark yellow parts between the top of the tooth and the gum are the dentine (the underlying layer) showing because of advanced enamel erosion. That part is indeed sensitive to cold. She suggested I have it covered with resin composite and get tested for fluorine deficiency.

Has any of you had experience with this process or resin composite fillings? Is the material even safe? I found the following studies advocating that the biodegradation of the composite inside the mouth releases substances that could pose health issues:

- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3532765/

- http://ec.europa.eu/health/opinions/en/dental-amalgam/l-3/5-health-effects-alternative-materials.htm

I don't what to do. Should I go ahead and have the dentine cleaned and covered with resin, or simply focus on eating less dried fruit and hope it stabilizes or remineralizes?

Obviously, the dentist got very offended when I explained to her why dairy and toothpaste with glycerin are definitely not healthy options. And she argued it was the fruit and citrus that caused this.

Thanks for your help!

Should I stop getting my cavities filled?

2014-01-09T18:13:26.000Z

I live in this town in Kentucky and I don't mean to sound rude.. but this place isn't very intelligent..... I have to travel an hour away just to get bananas that are ripe and edible, anyway..

I went to the dentist and he filled my cavity, and the next day the filling fell out. Research says it's a lack of skill and to find a new dentist..

But besides all of that, don't they use mercury in the filling anyway? =/

What would a LFRV do about all of this? I'm stressed.

I have a lot of dental work, including braces or retainers or something and my natural health conscious says not to trust dentists but everyone else says I should.

I'm not sure..

Interesting and comprehensive article on tooth health

2013-10-20T19:33:10.000Z

Have any of you come across this article? I don't know much about this scientist but it is very interesting. I know there is debate on whether you can reenamalize your teeth. My dentist says you can't, just like you can't regrow bone. It's definitely possible to remineralize, we do it all the time. But this article says reenamalization is possible. What do you guys think?

http://100777.com/health/teethcare

I've recently had some acid erosion on my teeth that is quite worrisome and needed 2 cavities to be filled. I've always had great teeth so I don't quite know why I'm having this problem all of a sudden. It seems to have come on quickly. The only thing I can think of is that I did take large amounts of vitamin C in powder form (ascorbic acid) and this may have caused it. Do any of you have experience taking large amounts of this?

DO VEGANS GET MORE CAVITIES

2013-10-20T14:37:14.000Z

I subscribe to a medical doctor's blog whose name is Michael Greger. He has some very very interesting topics regularly and just today he posted an article entitled:" Do Vegans get more cavities." It is really very interesting and informative. Ever since going on the vegan trek I have been looking for information on this topic and thought I had to post the article because it seems quite balanced full of good information.

Here is the link: http://nutritionfacts.org/2013/07/25/do-vegans-get-more-cavities/

Fruit leads to mouth problem

2013-09-29T17:34:10.000Z

Hello. I have a dry mouth when I sleep...and I believe it is due to the sugar in fruit. Dont get me wrong I wont stop eating fruit. But I had this conversation with a raw vegan today (raw vegan for 3 years) and she said she had the same problem. She had cavities and had to change toothpase.

Wisdom Teeth

2013-08-30T00:50:58.000Z

So obviously removing wisdom teeth isnt life or death BUT I'm thinking about removing them... I dont want anything medication wise during or after... no numbing agent no anesthesia no pain killers no antibiotics

Have any of yall done this?!

Whats your experience

ps. all four are impacted

Remineralise teeth

2013-07-22T07:44:14.000Z

Hi everyone,

Do you have any advice on remineralising/healing teeth?

Any specific foods or other recommendations you might have? :)

Thanks! DJ

Teeth trouble? Anyone?

2013-05-28T22:51:44.000Z

Ok so I had some slight dental issues here and there before going 100% raw, but I feel like my gums are receding like crazy and tooth ache here and there. I eat a ton of citrus and mangoes. I'm guessing its all the citrus. Does anyone have any similar experiences and how did you handle it?

FASTING FOR TEETH ISSUES?

2013-03-16T14:05:33.000Z

Does anyone have experience with improved dental health after fasting? I would love to hear your story.

Thanks!

My mouth is always fresh now!

2013-03-07T07:59:35.000Z

Just wanted to share an observation with you guys. Before I went hcrv I was dealing with bleeding gums (especially when flossing), bad taste (especially after eating or drinking coffee / dairy etc), my tongue didnt feel clean and probably wasnt. I was brushing my teeth very often but I wouldnt be surprised if I had a bad breath. I would always chew chewing gum because I was worried about it.

Now on a hcrv diet my mouth always tastes great! Somehow like citrus, even when I don't eat any citrus. My mouth is also never dry. My gums are healed and look healthy now. My tongue always feels clean and my teeth seem to be whiter!

Fruit bad for teeth??! I somehow don't believe it!

How should I protect my teeth from acidic fruits?

2013-02-18T15:16:19.000Z

I eat a lot of acidic foods(oranges, lemons, limes, etc.). I make sure not to brush my teeth right after eating, but is that enough to protect my teeth or will they still get damaged?

Have any of you had problems when eating oranges for long periods of time?

toothpaste inhibiting digestion?

2013-01-06T23:15:26.000Z

I'm under the impression my body sets to work digesting whatever is inside as soon as it enters my mouth. My understanding is that specific foods require specific digestive juices and their presence inspires the production of those juices internally (that's why we strive to combine foods well, so there aren't contrasting digestive reactions occurring at once).

I'm curious what you think- will brushing my teeth immediately after a meal cause my body to change the digestive reaction it's making for the food in my stomach? Will it stop secreting juices to digest my food and start secreting something different to deal with toothpaste?

Thanks for any input :)

Has anyone had experience with teeth whitening?

2012-12-14T13:46:54.000Z

Hello!

I am thinking about having my teeth whitened. If anyone has had experience with this, I would appreciate any advice... Thanks!

Going to dentist for PAINFUL wisdom tooth. NEED advice on drugs

2012-11-01T19:42:59.000Z

I'm about to go to the dentist about my wisdom tooth that has been paining me for a few days (I made a post about it here). I'm a little swollen and they told me if I was too swollen I would have to take an antibiotic to reduce the swelling before being processed.

I'm not sure whether I have an infection, it might also be a possibility that I should have the tooth and maybe 1 more pulled. My point is that I want to take the least compromiseable drugs to my body if any at all. What might help with swelling? Maybe I could use some concoction of clove oil and maybe other herbs and citrus topically to numb the gum during surgery? If I do end up taking pharmaceuticals, what should compounds should I try my best to avoid in the drugs during and post? Fluoride? Ephedrine?

What are rules of thumb? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

White spots on teeth and some problems more

2012-10-31T22:17:55.000Z

Hello

I am new here, and i have some questions, if someone can help me

I am Portuguese, so i am sorry for the not correct English, but I'll try my best :-)

I am trying the 811 for a month, doing fruit all day (3 mono meals) and salad at night. I am mixing some boiled potato at night, because i am breastfeeding and several people told me this way the detox is softer.

1. I am loosing a lot of weight. I am 1.74cm and was 60kg, and i lost 5kg already. Until my 22 that was my normal weight, so it's not that what worries me. But its this normal or i am eating not enough? I am eating like 2500calories. I am breastfeeding a lot, like in 3h/3h, day and night.

2. Last week some white spots appear in my teeth! I've never had this!!

3. My skin, now, is ugly, with no life, lots of wrinkles, ugly color

4. My gums are bleeding now, and not before!

5. On cronometer.com, my calcium its never enough, and the biotin and choline are always very very low. The Zink too. Why? Its trustable the cronometer-com or not?

I am becoming really worried with this. I can give an exemple of the food i eat. Today, 10 bananas+mango with persimmons+8oranges. And at night salad with lettuce(head), 1cucumber1tomato,boiled potatos,redpepper and a spoon of olive oil (i know its not 811)

Can someone please help me? I am worried for me and for my baby :/

I really believe raw is the way, but im afraid i am not doing it right...

Wisdom tooth hurts! Please HELP

2012-10-31T20:36:56.000Z

2 days ago, 1 of my wisdom teeth that was partially broken through for a while started hurting as I was going to bed. I woke up repeatedly during the night, the pain was pretty bad. After waking up several times it didn't feel that bad in the morning and afternoon, but fast forward to yesterday evening and it started hurting pretty badly again. Last night was a similar ordeal like the night before--repeatedly waking up in pretty bad pain; after waking up a couple times I noticed the side of my jaw is fairly swollen (and the underside slightly as well). I went back to sleep and am now awake and it's still swollen after at least 6 hours. I did ice it a little in the night to seemingly no effect, I guess I will continue to do that.

Can this get better? I have been in pretty bad pain for the last 2 days, can barley open my mouth and chew so have only being drinking orange juice. I read from a member here about it not being necessary to extract wisdom teeth and that orthodontists have a way to use special plates for the wisdom teeth to settle properly? I can see the whole tooth including the back side being covered by gum still and it hurts around the backside, does this mean there is just not enough space in my mouth and this procedure might not be applicable to myself? I really don't want to get it removed if I don't have to. The tooth on the other side is in the same place as this one had been before (wanting to come out for a while but still mostly covered in gum), so I feel this is bound to happen to that tooth as well. Luckily my top ones came in fine. Please help, I'm hurting and would greatly appreciate the advice.

Teeth problems- to eat citrus or not to eat citrus?

2012-10-03T16:15:10.000Z

I've been 811 for 3 months.

I have a painful spot near my gum line on a bottom tooth and a tooth above it. I've always had perfect teeth so this really worries me. I do not blame the diet, I could not live any other way- I finally feel good!

I've been reading a lot of advice, a lot which contradict each other.

There's toothpaste or no toothpaste: I'm going with toothpaste, this one: http://www.uncleharrys.com/store/product_info.php/tooth-paste-peppermint-glass-jar-p-1490?osCsid=1842hgrq5m38ov9ggpma5jac17

There's brushing before, after, or 1/2 hour after eating. Before eating makes sense to me, then rinsing after eating with a baking soda tea tree mix.

There's don't eat citrus, it's too acidic or eat oranges for the calcium? I have no idea on this one..

Brushing away from the gums definitely!

Has anybody used dr. tungs gum healing oil?

What is your 'set' of dental care advice? Is the toothpaste I'm using too abrasive? I've been thinking about just using tea tree oil. And, of course, what about citrus? I got in the habit of licking lemons and limes just about every night, it's soo good for some reason, but I'm definitely going to stop doing that.