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Teenager wanting to go 100% raw vegan...

2016-06-24T04:24:31.000Z

Hello everyone!

I'm going into my senior year of high school this September. I've been vegan since fall of last year, and vegetarian for a few years before that. Since around April, I've upped my intake of whole fruits and vegetables. I feel amazing. I've become more fit and stronger, and overall I feel my health has greatly increased.

However, lately I've been getting sick every time I eat cooked food. I tried cutting gluten, which my dad is intolerant of. That helped, but I'm still getting nauseous after dinner. Evidently this is problematic, as I still live at home with my family. I've been eating 100% raw until dinner, which I eat high carb low fat vegan, but cooked. My family is very supportive of my decision to be vegan, and also they've also seen my health increase.

I feel my best on 100% raw. This summer is my opportunity to at least try going completely raw for a week. I'm hoping that after this my parents will let me go raw indefinitely.

Do you have any advice for how I could go about talking about going 100% raw? Like I said, my family is very open to this. My mom is vegetarian, but I'm the only hardcore vegan here. But I don't want to rush into anything with them.

I've already hinted that once I hit college, I'm going raw. But I hope that I can do this before then, otherwise it's going to be another year of nausea after cooked food.

Thanks in advance to any advice. I really need it.

Raw Till 4 Teen and Raw Till 4 in Winter

2016-06-11T03:44:52.000Z

Hey guys,

Recently came to the raw till 4 lifestyle and I'm loving it! I transitioned quickly to a vegan diet and found that raw till 4 made most sense to me! However not to my parents, how do I maturely discuss with them that this is the best lifestyle for me without them thinking this is me further restricting myself?

I've talked to my mum with how I'm no longer restricting like I used to on things like iifym and how I'm eating more and she seems to understand that, but my dad is far more against veganism than anything.

Anyone have any tips?

Also, how to do Raw Till 4 in Winter?

Thanks!

Loving RT4

2016-05-05T17:57:44.000Z

Hey everyone! I came from a restrictive low carb diet and decided to try RT4 because I knew I needed to grow some ovaries and tackle my restrictive eating problem. I was so tired of merely existing and wanted to thrive.

The amount of calories made me very nervous and it was a challenge to trust food again. I gradually increased my calories and now am getting 2000 minimum a day and 3 liters of water. I'm working up to 2500 :). I feel so alive! I love working out, am hitting PR's in running, and I don't feel exhausted after. I'm completely satisfied every day, I get better sleep, and my skin is so soft. I can trust my whole, plant, vegan, high carb food and I can eat as much as I want! I also love it because it's doable and sustainable long-term. I can go out to restaurants and find something HCLF, and I don't feel socially isolated because of my food.

I experienced bloating and digestion upset at the beginning because my body wasn't used to digesting much food at all, and both symptoms went away within 2 weeks. I have eaten RT4 for almost a month and I'm very happy eating this way. I have not gained any weight but that is not what my focus is on. I feel like I'm actually alive and I am happy.

Just wanted to share my experience :)

My Family Says I'm Gonna Get Fat

2016-01-31T05:00:34.000Z

So I've been going all out on the non-restriction thing, having 10 banana smoothies every morning, another 1,000 calorie smoothie for lunch, and huge bowls of rice and pasta for dinner. My family is part of the whole "carbs make you fat" movement, so every time they see me have these meals, they raise their eyebrows and comment, "That's a lot of white rice..." "You're eating THAT many bananas?" "Wow, you're really going to town, tonight!" etc. Especially the bananas, they tell me how they've read that they're pure sugar, high in carbs, blah blah.

Besides me explaining that pure, natural carbs don't cause insulin spikes because of the fiber in the foods, I also explain to them that humans are meant to live off of plant-based carbohydrates, and that I don't believe humans should limit their intake of fruit any more than a lion should limit his intake of gazelle, or a caterpillar should limit his intake of leaves.

So I eat a lot in spite of their comments, because I'm frankly tired of restricting myself so much. All my life I've been adapting my portion sizes to the people around me, even though I knew those measly meals wouldn't satisfy me. Especially since I'm a woman, but I find myself naturally wanting to eat more than most men eat, so I feel like there's something wrong with me.

There is a little voice inside my head that tells me I shouldn't have such a voracious appetite, that I should have more "feminine" portions, but my under carbed brain allows interrupts and says, "Screw that! I'm gonna eat as much as I want, I am so done with restricting myself and feeling unsatisfied because of it. I don't care if people think I eat a too much, that's none of their business. This is my life, I'm gonna live it to the fullest, and I'm gonna EAT to the fullest!"

So thankfully, I haven't given in to peer pressure, and I don't see myself ever going back to restriction. I'm not gaining weight, so they can't throw any concrete evidence at me against my new eating habits anyway. It'll just be nice when I get the physical results to show them it's actually the reverse!

Has anyone else had any experience with people telling them eating Raw Till 4 will make them fat?

Mentor/Vegan raw till 4 guru for the uk?

2016-01-13T22:19:13.000Z

Hey hey!! I recently went vegan and am embarking on the Raw Till 4 journey!!I'd really appreciate the help of people who have experienced the pitfalls, highs, lows, positives and negatives of the diet so I can understand what it's doing to my body :) any advice for this newbie would be awesome! And if anyone is in the UK, it would be great if you could recommend where to at our as a vegan or vegan groups I could join?Thanks fellow plant people :)

The official Raw Till 4 ebook is here!

2016-01-03T04:52:55.000Z

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Helping me start up

2015-08-13T00:43:35.000Z

Hi guys,So I'm desperate to start the raw till 4 vegan lifestyle but I need serious advice and guidance on how to do so, like where to shop in the uk for this and advice on meal preparation, any places where I can buy bananas in bulk too would be great as the organic ones from places are expensive, do I have to go organic or not? I have a lot of questions so thanks for taking the time to read this.ThanksJoe

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2015-07-12T21:04:14.000Z

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Is the raw till 4 diet helpful to those with autism?

2015-06-25T00:22:59.000Z

I was just wondering because I am autistic and am doing raw till 4 so I was just wondering if this could be helpful for my autism.

How long were Freelee and Harley fully raw before going raw till 4?

2015-06-02T21:21:13.000Z

I would like to know this because I went 100% fruit with no transition seven months ago, and since then I have been detoxing way too much including juice fasting for two months and extreme calorie restriction throughout due to not having access to good fruit.Now the reason I ask is that the cooked carbs are very dense and I'm concerned about how they will affect my digestion after this period of detox and going so long without solid food. I mostly ate blended bananas and blended apples without the skin during these 7 months because I lost the enamel on my teeth.I have a theory that people who are used to eating cooked carbs can handle them and people who have had a raw diet for a long time BUT have detoxed very well can also handle them, but I am somewhere in the middle where my body is not used to them but it is also not in a vibrant state where it can handle everything because it's so clean.Any thoughts on this? I feel I shouldhsve just started with raw til 4 and done that for several years. Can my body go back to rice and potatoes now? The reason that it concerns me is because I have been involved with communities that maintain that cooked starches become glue in the intestines.

8 months high carb and no changes

2015-04-21T09:28:36.000Z

Hi everybody!

So I have been eating high carb low fat vegan since November (so it's 8th month now) but I don't feel any changes. At first I tried eating as much fruit as I was able to get but then during the winter it was really expensive so I switched to eating cooked carbs. From time to time I do eat some fatty products but it isn't that much. Also, I exercise regularly (sometimes I run about 4 km, most of the time I ride bike to school which is about 20km forth and back). I drink about 2-3 liters of water per day, sometimes less.

In fact, I have experienced some changes, for example, I feel better, my hair and nails are stronger. The problem is, my weight haven't changed a bit. I mean, I haven't gained or lost any of it. Sometimes it really pisses me off... That's why I created this topic! So if anyone could tell me what I am doing wrong, I'll be pleased to hear.

New Teen Vegan Youtube Channel

2015-03-18T22:34:20.000Z

hey guys i wanted to share my YouTube channel with everyone my name is Connor and i live in California i will be vegan for 1 year in May and its defiantly been the best decision i have ever made i hope u can check it out : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUWxPflUJVGiRZoKc4UGgwQ

Help! Breastfeeding and dizzy.

2015-02-05T01:57:19.000Z

Hi!

So I've been following the raw till 4 lifestyle off and on for months. About 3 weeks ago I got serious and have been eating this way consistently.

My concern is this:
I'm tandem breastfeeding my toddler and my 3 month old. I always make an excess of milk.

The last 3 weeks, I've been dizzy and light headed with a fuzzy brain. It feels like I'm not eating enough...like my blood pressure has dropped, but I know that I am because I'm monitoring it via cronometer. I've averaging 3200-3500 calories a day.I usually do 15-30 mins of yoga 5 days a week. It's hard to get consistent exercise with two little ones during the winter.

Here is a typical day for me in the winter:

I eat a massive banana date smoothie in the am that adds up to about 1200-1400 calories or I have a massive dateoraid.

This usually take me a while to eat, but almost instantly, after the first couple sips, I start to feel dizzy.

For lunch I'll have another big smoothie, usually a green one plus 5-6 bananas or pears. It usually totals about 800-1000 calories or I'll just eat 6-10 bananas.

For dinner I'll eat the typical RT4 potatoes, rice, rice noodles, pasta etc etc. It usually adds up to 1300-1400.

I drink a TON of water. Around 7-9 L a day easily. Breastfeeding makes you thirsty. I pee clear.

I have read that the dizziness could be two things..the fat leaving my system and/or the salt leaving my system.

I'm starting to get concerned as I have two little ones to care for all day and I worry about driving and just doing daily activities with them.

Can anyone tell me how long this may last? Can I do anything to ease this?

P.S. I have been eating clean for a long time, but I did have gut problems and I know I had problems absorbing nutrients. When I started to change my diet 7 years ago it was because I was pretty sick. Massive fatigue, debilitating joint pain, headaches, brain fog, skin issues, flu symptoms, bad periods etc. I don't have any of those things anymore, except for the occasional joint pain if I eat something wrong.

Please help!

Transitioning from Fully Raw to RawTill4

2015-02-05T01:14:46.000Z

Hi everyone!

What do you suggest is the best way to transition from eating an 80/10/10 diet to start eating Raw till 4?

I started this lifestyle 7 months ago, beginning with fully raw, then gradually started eating cooked foods at night, but still kept around 3 to 4 fully raw days. I lost weight and later stabilized to a healthy weight. Later on, I started eating Raw till 4 and started gaining some extra pounds, so I decided to go back to a Fully Raw diet for at least a month to try to go back to where I was. Still, I want my body to adjust to eat cooked food at night again. I love Raw till 4 lifestyle and I feel its the best of both worlds! So how would say is the best way to transition so I don't lose what I've gained? Thanks!!!

Can I lose weight just by going vegan?

2015-02-04T01:29:52.000Z

I wanted to know if I can lose weight by going vegan, not raw till 4? I'm just starting out and I'm the only vegan in my house. I find that I make too much food for dinner and end up eating the leftovers for lunch the next day. Will I still lose weight? I am also doing 1-2 hours of exercise a week.

My Raw Till 4 Staples!

2015-01-20T18:29:43.000Z

Lonely Beginning of Raw Till 4

2015-01-07T05:08:33.000Z

Hello friends!

I've done a lot of research prior to beginning Raw Till 4, and it's almost a week since I've begun it, but I am feeling the overwhelming sense of doubt flood over me with every little shift and change in my body. I am certainly not used to this, and I'm still worried about vitamin deficiencies such as iron, b12, and D despite having heard countless times why and where these things can be obtained.

As a lot of the women (and men) come to this lifestyle with disordered eating pasts and presents, I too come here wearing my badges of dishonor: calorie-restrictor, weight obsessed, digestively challenged, nut-binger, and hypochondriac. I may have given up the most severe case of calorie restriction 2 years ago, but I would certainly be heading down that beaten path again in no time if it weren't for this lifestyle.

My metabolism in compromised GREATLY, I am still healing from antibiotics given to me in order to eradicate vicious h. pylori, I am jumping head first into this despite having done Fully Raw wrong 7 months prior, and I am more confused than ever about who to listen to and what will keep my body from feeling so ill. I feel like I'm being pulled in so many directions, but I don't know who to follow. No doubt Vegan is important, but I still truly believe there is no one set way of eating for every person. I'm just not sure where to begin, but I have decided to build my base upon RT4 and add gradually until I find what is absolutely right for me.

For now I feel a little lonely in the journey because I have no one to talk to about my specific ailments thus far. I'm a worrier, something I would like to alleviate with time, but I cannot help the fear I am going to have life-threatening symptoms but I have no way of telling -of course, until it's too late and I've ruined my health more.

Gosh, does that make sense? I guess what I'm trying to say is I feel weird, and I would love to hear more about others' first couple weeks going HCRV / RT4.

Forgive my incoherence!

Love and light,

Pip

Back in the game, bloating/digestion advice?

2015-01-05T22:45:17.000Z

Hey guys,

I was eating raw till 4 this summer and managed 2 months before I went back to eating the SAD diet once again, along with smoking, and drinking. I'm happy to say that I'm back to a high carb low fat vegan lifestyle. I'm definitely want to do it right this time around and have no plans of falling off the wagon again!

I've been raw till 4 for about 10 days now and I'm having the worst digestion problems. My stomach hurt so bad last night that I barely made it through my shift as a waitress. I should also mention that I stopped taking the contraceptive pill 2 months ago and my time of the month hasn't come back into full force yet. It definitely felt like terrible PMS cramps, but magnified by 100!

Anyway, if any of you lovely ladies have advice on how to work through this please let me know!

Lauren

NEED A RAW (till 4) BUDDY IN LONDON, SE

2014-11-23T18:36:44.000Z

Hi guys,

I've been on raw till 4 since May and I find it great! feel much better, healthier, more energy, more balanced and happier :) I'm in uni in SE4 and live nearby. Looking for someone to buddy up, discover vegan London and share experiences. Anyone in the area? Drop me a mail :)

Miriam

Gain weight on raw till 4

2014-11-22T23:34:15.000Z

Hi, I am on raw till 4 for 3month.I recently feel so hungry and up my calorie intake to 2800-3000kcal.But I am bloating and feel like gaining weight.I feel I will not able to lose weight with this calorie, cuz I never been skinny since I was kidsAnd struggling weight . I'm female very active. 5"3 126lb.Dose anyone who has been chubby all there life but lose weight on raw till 4?I think I need lower my calorie around 2000-2500kcal

Thailand - tips\wwoof\hclf\travel partners?!

2014-11-17T18:16:36.000Z

hey fruities :)

ill be getting to bkk in 1 week and i have absolutely no plans.

I was hoping to get some general tips on what to eat, and how, I mean, im used to buying in huge boxes but i obviously won't be able to do so while traveling... so how do you get by fruitwise? also, i'd love to hear about some vegan restaurants that serve high carb vegan food or vegan dishes that don't have oil in them.

did anyone here get a chance to wwoof in thailand? i was thinking something with a lot of fruits, maybe picking fruits in an organic farm and building mud houses, and also an elephant sanctuary. I realize that all the wwoof in thailand costs money as well, is that true?

lastly, I'm looking for travel partners or just some fruitbats who'd like to meet up and hang out a bit. feel free to hit me up at Henyamania @gmail.com or on fb Henya Von Perezz.

raw till 4 friendly curry?

2014-11-15T11:33:39.000Z

I'm craving a nice curry and was wondering if anyone has any good recipes without oil, garlic, salt, etc. Thanks!

Fruit Picking Job Australia

2014-11-08T13:01:30.000Z

Does anyone know of a good place to go fruit picking in australia?

Someone else thinking about doing this in the next months?

6 Months and Still Gaining Weight- Losing Faith in This.

2014-11-05T15:20:31.000Z

I've been low sodium, low fat, Raw Till 4 vegan for six months, and vegan for 5 years. I'm still gaining weight. I went from my healthy weight that I've been at for years (113 lbs) to nearly 130 lbs. I feel so uncomfortable at this weight. I have a very small frame (all the women in my family do), and I'm 5'7". I work out three times a week, cardio for 15 to 30 minutes and 30 minutes of weight training, although the weight training is light. I easily eat 2k calories a day. I love bananas, grapes, mangoes and rice, as well as the occasional potato meal (they dehydrate me big time!) and many kinds of tropical fruits, greens, and vegetables. It really looks like I've gained fat on my stomach. I used to have abs, but those are long gone, as well as the muscle definition on my arms and legs. I used to feel good about myself, but now I just feel horrible. I don't have very much confidence because I feel like I'm carting around an extra limb! This is the heaviest I've ever been and I'm supposed to be auditioning for modeling soon. What should I do? I've been messaging and emailing Freelee for months now, but it seems she's too busy to get back to me.

Winter's Coming...Strategies For Staying Carbed Up In Northern Hemisphere?

2014-11-05T12:01:39.000Z

So, yeah, I live in NYC and I can only grow like a 4x4 pallet of greens. The only thing that survives even this far into fall is my kale - and most of that is gone as I really like a kale smoothie at night - not a big fan of kale salad. I'd rather drink it!

What are you doing or what can you suggest for smashing it in during winter here in the colder part of the world? I can buy some decent organic fruit ... usually. But there are times when weather prevents deliveries and ... I don't know, I hate having my entire diet consist of stuff that's flown/trucked in.

My list:

Bananas

Apples

Pears

Dates/Dates/More Dates

Squash

Sweet potatoes

Carrots

Add to this list, please!!!!!!

Harley and Freelee's opinion on Dr. Graham and the 80/10/10 format?

2014-10-30T00:19:27.000Z

After sucking up as much information as I could from all sorts of big names of the HCRV lifestyle, I am finding some (not much, but enough lol) differences in beliefs on how to do this correctly. Does anyone know what Harley and Freelee think of people like Dr Graham, and his followers (fully raw kristina, rawvana, ellen fisher, etc.)?

I love hearing all sorts of ideas on why its better to be fully raw vs. raw till 4 etc. Any opinions are welcome, actually!

Any Vegan foods that cause weight gain?

2014-10-20T18:55:05.000Z

I know cutting out meat etc will help A LOT but are there any vegan foods that you should stay away from? 'Healthy' vegan foods that actually could cause weight gain?
Besides nuts, anything else?
Much appreciated!
xxx

RAW TILL 4

2014-10-12T14:57:10.000Z

Today I'm starting Raw Till 4 for 1 month as I'm transitioning into veganism.

Do you have any tips,information that will help me succeed as i desperately need it thanks.

Kelvin

help need advise getting overweight not obese but that's how my doc calls it

2014-10-07T19:47:45.000Z

HiI know This might annoy now but its another i have gained weight'20 Kg in total from 37-57 i was anorexic four month ago and am on this lifestyle for four month nowMy question is Will I gain back all the weight I carried bf anorexia which is 67 kg like it was in the starvation study by ancel keys?I know everybody tells me to be consistent but my mother tells me now that I shouldn't eat that much and my doctor suggested me calorie restriction.....Im 160 cm weigh 57KgEat 3500 - 4000 calories a day1-2 hours of bikingWeight lifting 3 x a weekRiding 4 x a weekDo I eat to much? I don't stuff my Face I really am hungry for thatmuchAnd dr once said starved ppls hunger is massive does that mean that I gain weight cause I am too hungry and eat too much cause there is a limit in carb consumption or my metabolism simply is fucked up?Should I continue like that when will the weight come off I don't care when but I care if I know I gotta pay for the shit I did but my mom's critique really upsets me does everyone get skinny longterm? How long is long term? Should I go fully raw? Should I try to eat low calorie foods?I eat dates and berries for b fast 1000-1500 kcals the same for lunch or rice or potatoes 1000 kcal dinner rice /potatoes and salad1000-1500 kcalShould i eat differently im struggeling with the water I drink around 2.5-3 l through my smoothie but am not consistent with drinking before every meal I also often eat fruit on topping starches and o sleep only around 7-8 hoursPlz reply ^…^

Newbie! Transitioning into Raw till 4 from a lower average weight??

2014-08-12T20:50:56.000Z

Hi. My name is Katherine and for the past few months, I have been eating a high raw diet with occasional cooked veggies at night. I haven't been eating the recommended daily value AT ALL and my past with an ED and restriction has been the cause for it. Now I am fully committed to eating Raw till 4 following the guidelines. I am just wondering if anyone has experienced (or currently going through) the same situation I am in and what effects you've seen like if you are gaining weight, does it stop and balance out or what your current health is like and maybe tips on how to be able to consume 2000+ a day if that much is even necessary? Please help, I really want to succeed on this lifestyle. I am loving the energy and all of the fresh, ripe and delicious fruit I'm consuming. Thank you!