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Macrobiotic philosophy and Fruitarian philosophy

Posted by Hummingbird on September 11, 2011 at 9:20am in Off topic

My roommate has been trying out LFRV here and there from my influence.  He'll do banana island for a week at a time with me whenever I'm home.  He loves it, feels the energy, and overall is very receptive to the fruitarian message.

 

Since he is not a member of 30BaD, he's asked me to post this question for him:

 

"I come from a background of Macrobiotic eating which I did for several years and had a very positive experience.  I am specifically looking to hear the experiences of people who have done BOTH Macrobiotic and Fruitarian, and what you think?"

 

Thanks!"

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  • Hummingbird September 12, 2011 at 5:28pm

    I never understood why fruits were considered too "Yin".  The Ayervedic system also classifies raw foods as too "cooling" (don't know exact term).  One Ayervedic expert who I once consulted told me that the right diet for my body constituency included almost zero raw foods, but a fancy array of specifically combined spices instead.  It was so counterintuitive...

     

    I feel that yin and yang are real, perceivable and valid qualities that exist in nature, and in our bodies.  However, I feel that a diet of a variety of raw fruits and vegetables is already perfectly balanced in terms of yin and yang.

     

    After eating melons for a few days, I notice myself feeling very attracted to fruits like mangoes or pineapples, which have an opposing quality to melons.  "Hot" and "cold" are confusing terms to use for these qualities - I don't believe any words exist for them in English, but it's something my body knows intuitively.

     

    Like tomatoes and cucumbers together.  They complement each other nicely because they have opposite tastes, in a way.  Cucumbers are ethereal, tomatoes are grounding.  Or something... :)

     

    And I notice I have tons of energy when I eat in this "balanced" way.  Maybe the best word to describe it is simply "variety".

  • Angela Camp September 12, 2011 at 9:23am
    I also became disillusioned with Macrobiotics after practicing it for some time, and I am glad I had the experience because it made me much more discerning about the type of nutrition advice I was willing to accept. For all my training in the sciences, I never fully applied my critical thinking skills to the "diet" I was following. Thats one thing that I have liked about the 811 concept, it really invites you to use your critical thinking skills, not wash over your reasoning with ambiguous yin and yang talk.
  • Angela Camp September 12, 2011 at 9:15am
    I haven't been 100% LFRV yet but I did practive macrobiotics for about a year and just on a philosphic level I didn't like having to buy all the japanese condiments (miso, shoyu, dulse) and never got a full handle on how the yin yang philosophy as applied to foods registered to my digestion of them. Also, it encouraged consumption of whole grains and legumes which I have never enjoyed eating unless combined with lots of spices, salt, and produce. Also, I love tropical fruit and macrobiotics discourages consumption of tropical fruit on the basis that it is too "yin" for people who don't live in the tropics, again never understood how this related to the physiologic process of digestion. I tend to want thorough explanantions and the whole yin and yang concept seemed too abstract to me. As I have only been attempting LFRV for 1 month, I can't compare results, but I can say on a conceptual level, 80/10/10 has a much stronger scientific basis than macrobiotics, I'm a biologist and that makes a huge difference to me.
    • Hummingbird > Angela Camp September 12, 2011 at 5:16pm

      ....inhaling and exhaling the smoke was a proper balance of the yin and yang elements.

       

      That is hilarious, I just laughed my head off!

  • Hummingbird September 12, 2011 at 9:03am

    Hey Diane,

     

    Thanks so much for your reply!  You're the exact type of person that my friend was interested in finding... someone who is well-versed in the ways of Macrobiotics, who would be able to understand some of his concerns and questions about LFRV from that point of view.

     

    You've had a very interesting experience, and thanks for sharing.  Do you mind if I share your email address with him?  You could private message it to me.

  • PK September 12, 2011 at 4:02am

    Fruit Fly,

    The human body is a wonderful source of innate wisdom that is primordial and instinctual in nature.  It knows what to do automatically.

    When a woman is pregnant, no one interferes with the development of the baby.  Both the body of mom and baby know what to do.

    If we give our bodies what the need, ie whole fresh, raw fruits and greens, the body knows what to do with these materials.

    We do not need to mix and match and supplement and try to assist the body.

    It seems your roommate already knows how lfrv feels.  I recommend that he just give a go 100%, relax, and never look back.

    Peace, PK

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