Hi Fruitbats!!
I am new to this lifestyle! I have been a high carb low fat vegan for a month, and raw till 4 for 2 weeks :) Please give me a thumbs up haha
So, my friend recently sent me a link on youtube. It's a presentation by a MD talking about fat is not whats dangerous, but FRUCTOSE is dangerous. Have you guess watched the presentation? I really was confused and want to hear what you say! You can search "Sugar the bitter truth" on youtube, or copy paste the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Let me know!!
Thank you!
P.
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Dr. Lustig has done some amazing research. He is a scholar and done amazing work for obesity and over eating research. He's unearthed the science behind why High fructose corn syrup overrides the bodies biology. He is pioneering the way in America for putting warning labels on soda. There is a second part to that talk.
I've never heard him demonise fruit. I wish I could remember the quote: the fructose in fruit is packaged with the antidote, fibre.
This helped me, maybe it will help you too :-)
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-much-fruit-is-too-much/
https://www.drmcdougall.com/2013/12/31/walter-kempner-md-founder-of...
Woohoo, totally awesome article!!! I had never heard of the rice, (and fruit,) diet from Duke University!
ROBERT LUSTIG IS A FATTY BOOM BOOM!
How after 20 years of being 'an obesity expert' is he fructing CLINICALLY OBESE IN 2016!!
Wow this is a hard one!
WHO YOU GOING TO LISTEN TO?
A FAT DODGY LOOKING GUY IN A SUIT WHO SAYS FRUIT IS BAD?
OR YOU GONNA LISTEN TO FREELEE IN A BIKINI WHO SAYS FRUIT IS GOOD AND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE ROBERT LUSTIG THEN EAT AND LIVE LIKE THE DOES.
What ya gonna do. ;)
According to Lustig part of the problem is the removal of fiber. Look at time index 42:12. There is the statement "removal of fiber." Which explains why whole fruits are so much healthier than fruit juice.
Then at time index 1:15:00 Ludwig again talks about the benefits of fiber. This is why whole fruit and green smoothies work so well. Then, he actually recommends a raw diet for increased fiber intake. In other words this video seems to support a raw vegan diet.
Lustig focuses on completely on the detrimental affects of HFCS and soft drinks. He uses the word paleo, which remember this video was made in 2009. The word paleo in my opinion has been hijacked. Sort of like the word organic was hijacked. Organic used to mean local as well as synthetic pesticide free. All paleo used to mean was no refined foods. Therefore, using the older definition of paleo a raw vegan diet is a paleo diet.
Of course the stolen version of the word paleo now means Atkins variant. Also know as low-carb. I'm still not sure how big business pulled that off. I mean how much meat did you expect a paleo hunter/gather to consume anyways? When I first heard of the raw vegan diet, I was like oh this is a paleo diet variant.
When, I was first introduced to paleo I was told to avoid dairy, grains, and heavily processed foods like trans fat and HFCS. By that simple definition of paleo, raw vegan is paleo. Well, unless you eat soaked grains that are raw or something weird like that on raw vegan.
Sorry if this is long winded. I'm just trying to figure out how in the world meat got at the bottom of the paleo's food pyramid. Completely illogical. Paleo literature contradicts itself. My mind went on tilt there trying to make sense of today's paleo websites.
What's much easier to understand is why people follow some of the paleo principles. I tend to be a dabbler so I never bothered to adhere to the principles of the paleo diet. Instead, I just eliminated trans fats and HFCS and got results. I never was good at strictly sticking to diets.
So random person A watches this video, visits a paleo website, eliminates HFCS and gets results. The problem of course is somehow lots of meat is stuck in the paleo diet like a thorn. When I was first going to Arnold's Way I thought of myself as attempting a raw vegan paleo diet.
I'm plotting of a way we can steal the name from paleos and make it ours somehow. Muwhahahaha. I'm a raw vegan caveman, take that you sissy meat eating caveman.
Why not "Neolithic"? 10 000 BCE to 4000 BCE. Sure, they grew grain crops, but they didn't have anything we'd call "processed foods" today.
Please google search "Fruit mortality" for yourself. Typical study results:
"Higher consumption of fruit and vegetables was significantly associated with a lower risk of all cause mortality"
"significant inverse association for cardiovascular mortality"
"Fruit and vegetable consumption was associated with decreased all-cause mortality"
"Fruit and vegetable consumption was associated with reduced cancer and cardiovascular mortality"
"450,000 participants... 13 years of follow-up... more than 569 g/day of fruits and vegetables had lower risks of death from diseases of the circulatory, respiratory and digestive system..."
Surprised:
"frozen/canned fruit consumption was apparently associated with increased mortality"
As for "fructose mortality":
Most fructose studies are conducted on mice and rats, often already diseased or with high blood pressure.
Studies show humans who consume large quantities of high fructose corn syrup (in the form of soft drinks) have high mortality (no shit).
"Investigation of consumption of sugars by source showed that the positive association with mortality risk was confined only to sugars from beverages, whereas the inverse association was confined to sugars from solid foods."
The topic of sugar has been greatly discussed here on 30Bad. Have a look at some of the posts and videos from the link below.
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topic/search?q=sugar
I didn't watch the video...but...doesn't common sense alone tell us that colourful, ripe, sweet whole fruit that appeals to all our senses could only be good for the human body? Doesn't common sense tell us that raw flesh, that is completely unappealing and unpalatable, couldn't possibly be good for us?? I taking my chances with the fruit :)