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  • Made October 30, 2015 at 9:58am

    http://freefromharm.org/common-justifications-for-eating-animals/wh...

  • Jocelyn Doevendans October 30, 2015 at 9:14am

    What these arguments conveniently overlook is the fact that more plants can be produced per hectare than livestock can be; there wouldn't be as much deforestation if there were less cattle already occupying the arable land. Dairy cattle occupy some of the highest quality land in every country, and if there were less dairy farms, this land would provide more than enough food for more people than would have been fed from the dairy output of the same area. Much of this deforestation is also to gain more land to graze cattle rather than grow grains, or if it is the grain is fed primarily to livestock. 

    They also don't really explain the mice thing very well, probably because it hasn't been researched properly. There would certainly be ways to mitigate those issues, this argument is just used to pick at vegetarians and vegans- they think that saying "but the food you eat is associated to mice dying" will make it ok for them to be directly responsible for the death of a great number of livestock, for the sole purpose of their own pleasure.

  • pradtf October 30, 2015 at 3:22am

    greetings james! and welcome to 30bad!

    the veg kills more is a standard and typically desperate corpse eater tactic.

    this post has links which will answer some of the issues:

    http://www.30bananasaday.com/xn/detail/2684079:Comment:4251058

    as well as jacob's post here on the same thread:

    http://www.30bananasaday.com/xn/detail/2684079:Comment:4251027

    in friendship,

    prad

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