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            <title>a personal testimonial about going through generalized global immunodefficience</title>
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            <published>2011-01-26T05:52:52.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-01-26T05:52:52.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>thierry&quot;pasteque/watermelon man&quot;</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;hi , all of you!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; this is my personal testimonial , not to put myself underlight but perhaps to inspire others, and i feel it has some purpose cause several person ask me by private message to share , so i start a discussion witch will be easier for me*.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;a warm thanks to tashalee thad re-read this testimonial and turn it from my &quot;franglish&quot; to a  grammaticaly correct english , keep on tasha!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;five years ago one july morning , doctors said to me (a was in hospital for a while) &quot;now we don't see any hope , sir....&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;they were talking about me , my health conditions and my survy , and up to that moment i was so weak that i followed their advise&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;what i want to share here is that nothing  will  never lead you to death's door  if you are convinced it wouldn't!! just that....any &quot;possibility&quot; of failing in your mind , any weakness in front of what others say about your disease , about you indeed ,  can create the issue!!&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;more than the food , it was this total shift in my mind that saved me.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;low fat raw vegan was the perfect &quot;tool&quot; but the mind did the job!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;in brief i was a  runner ( ultra runner and trail moutain runner )  , competitor in moutain bike and so on...competing and succeeding in many races in france and some international.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;but &quot;mysteriously&quot; i began to lose a lot of weight, year after year with nothing diagnosed.  i was raw for 8 years (i'm a 12-year raw foodist and more than 20 years vegan).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;but...raw in the high-fat, not high-fruit style.... and my weight dropped and i felt tired and tired; i couldn't perform in races ....&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;so desperately i went for a three-week awfully expensive stay in hippocrate's institute in florida, run by the &quot;raw guru&quot; brian clement.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;of course they put me more on greens, on juice, on nuts and seeds (fermented , prepared in dishes)  on sprouts and less than ever on fruits ......&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;and three months after i got back from florida , i was diagnosed with advanced tuberculosis, hepathic strong disease and global  immuno deficiency ....&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;sero-negative but same symptoms as AIDS (later on i came to understand that the AIDS virus doesn't exist at all and that what we call AIDS is a conjunction of several &quot;bad&quot; living conditions that push the body to exhaustion....) i was in the hospital, being able to eat raw but after a while felt so down (30kg !! 68lb!!), in a rolling chair, so briefly i was &quot;dying&quot; according to them, and obviously it was the case.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;and one night i had a dream that &quot;showed&quot; me the right way; that my body had the possibility to overcome, that i needed to stop any medicine, quit the hospital, go back to my father's house (somebody had to take care of me; it was impossible for me to wash, to eat, to sit without help) and mainly i saw an orange mango shining in the sun; it was the &quot;sign&quot;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;i changed my raw diet to a high-fruit diet (at the beginning i also ate for some months, pushed by a friend, raw animal products, even raw meat, but recognized quickly that it was totally not a human food) and for four years i recovered.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;the first year i put on 15 kg, up to 100 lb, and then during the last years it went slower but now i'm around 110 lb and putting a lot of muscle on (i train a lot; i know where i want to go!!! one should have a &quot;winner&quot; mind and the ability to see oneself succeeding if you want to.....)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt; i'm currently in thailand to learn earth-building techniques (i teach permaculture in france ) and...to enjoy!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;so yeah it works, i'm personaly sure that  you can cure anything by rest, fasting (if needed; it was inappropriate for me of course!!) and fruits and veggies!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;no supplements, no superfoods, no dried products; only whole, natural, non-prepared (no salad or mix, only mono-meals, several a day) and even...no nuts and seeds (and a few avocados once a while but really no more than one a week).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot;&gt;so simple--just sit on the earth and devour!! nothing more...and listen to the body.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;color:#351c75;&quot; /&gt;giving sun, love, rest, activity, interactions with others and with nature, feeling, smelling, touching, tasting ......... just being in an open and always enthusiastically interrogative mind !!  life has so much to give; life is soooo strong.  the only one to believe and follow is the living power in you.  forget all that others have said about you; you are what you deeply feel you are!  it's up to you!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;if this can help others , it's my only whish!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Celia Farber: A Reply to the Charge that AIDS Denialism Kills</title>
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            <published>2010-04-08T08:13:43.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-04-08T08:13:43.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Mark Hovila</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Celia Farber writes:   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://is.gd/bjJ08&quot;&gt;http://is.gd/bjJ08&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dear Aziz,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am sorry for the loss of your friend. Please listen because you have mis-characterized the HIV dissident movement: It asks thefollowing:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. Does a positive HIV test mean you are infected with HIV and what IS HIV?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. Does a positive HIV test mean that you are set on a clock for surefire immune depletion and death?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3. HIV positivity is generally a signal of something ‘going on’ with an immune system, though we have also seen cases where it seemed not toindicate poor health at all. Due the to vastly vastly varied outcomes ofHIV sero-conversion and the decades that follow that we have LIVED andSEEN, we send the message to each other and the world: “We don’t knowwhat it means but do not take it as a death sentence. Believe you canwork and heal yourself and try not to be overtaken by fear because themind governs the body.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4. Many of us have come to believe that AIDS is a fungal crisis. ARVs have potent anti-fungal components. Speaking for myself, I think theycan “play a role,” but the deeper work is in the total restoration ofhealth, centered in the health of the intestinal tract. (See TonyLance’s works.) I have never and would never push anybody to abandon ARVregimens. The dilemma is not BINARY. The problems with the HIV/AIDStheory as it stands, is a CRYSTAL of concerns.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They include:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;* The horrific psychic effects of the death sentence on mind, body and soul&lt;br /&gt;* The stigma of being HIV positive and how it cuts people off from life,hope, community, intimacy, childbearing, etc.&lt;br /&gt;* The immense problems with the HIV tests, which are not standardized.Countless people we KNOW have tested positive, negative and/orindeterminate. Why does the test flip flop like this? What is the testdesigned to test for? Why are the standards for positivity different indifferent labs, different countries, etc? Why is everybody HIV positiveif blood is tested straight and not diluted?&lt;br /&gt;* Why do some people test HIV positive and stay free of AIDS for 20 plusyears?&lt;br /&gt;We ALSO ask:&lt;br /&gt;* Why do people who go off ARV drugs and/or never take them and who havenever been serious drug addicts etc, still get sick and die in somecases?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As you know, many people–hundreds of thousands–who have followed orthodox protocol, from AZT to DDi, d4t, etc, over the ARVs/cocktails,have ALSO died. It is denial for you to suggest otherwise. There aredeaths on all sides. Tony Lance has found that sickness correlates 100%with destruction of intestinal flora, and that health correlates 100%with restoration of intestinal flora.&lt;br /&gt;* The dissident movement is looking at AIDS from a holistic perspectiveand is seeking answers that encompass both the body, soul and mind.&lt;br /&gt;* Do you think there is no such thing as the soul? Do you think it isfair, compassionate, and just to sentence people to death via anantibody test? None of the predictions of the HIV/AIDS paradigm haveremained stable or borne out. Billions of dollars have been madeexploiting people’s fear and pushing them into repeated testing with atest that does not even have a gold standard. Why do you think the HIVtest inserts state that the tests can not test for the presence ofabsence of HIV?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Something is wrong and people who have tested positive are held captive inside the unresolved puzzle.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We ask that the attacks, harassment and persecution of people struggling to find answers to their health cease. You don’t own them,you don’t govern them, they are independent autonomous beings who aretaking responsibility for their choices. People are free to choose ARVsif they want and also free to pursue other paths that don’t involvedrugs. There are COUNTLESS success stories among people who haveembraced comprehensive healing, in the West and in Africa. No evidencepoints to a single germ causation model.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All signs point to the importance of the intestinal tract, nutrition, fungal overload, and the importance of casting off the despair and fearimposed by the Gallo/NCI theory and the Pharma-funded minions whocontinue to make tens of millions of dollars in reward for pushing drugsonly and relentless persecution of those seeking other answers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;These people have deployed the abuse, debasement, slander, lies, professional assassination, espionage, and McCarthyism all in the nameof wanting to “save lives.” Their relentless persecutions have putpeople in their early graves and because they broadcast it so proudly,history will have it amply recorded.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Go to “war” all you want. It might serve you better to listen to the people who are fighting for these questions to be answered. You willdiscover that they are sound, ethical, brave human beings. That youdon’t want to hear their truths is unfortunate for you but try to acceptthat people are born free and not obliged to become pharmaceuticalslaves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is no class of rulers ordained to “save” other people’s lives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are all responsible for our lives and our health and we exchange information and make choices best we can.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for respecting this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I said I would never address HIV/AIDS again but I made an exception, because you are trying to terrorize people with death. Do we show updangling corpses on your websites?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;No. Because we don’t traffic in fear, blame, control, or contempt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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            <title>Had a little arguement about this on facebook....</title>
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            <published>2009-06-04T03:00:50.000Z</published>
            <updated>2009-06-04T03:00:50.000Z</updated>
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                <name>Chad RD</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;And here are some of the responses that I got&quot;Do you also think that vaccines cause autism and that the government planned 9/11? Idiot.&quot;&quot;any evidence at all? ok, here's 1 piece of evidence: the vast majority of professional MDs believe HIV causes AIDs. there's one piece of evidence.of course you could claim that's flimsy, but that's my point. it's a frequent theme of pseudoscience not to let oneself get pinned down to any sort of standard of evidence.here's a bunch more, although i guess we've already agreed you only need one piece of evidence:... Read More&lt;a href=&quot;http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/topics/HIVAIDS/&quot;&gt;http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/topics/HIVAIDS/&lt;/a&gt;I guess it's too late to put money on it since you're now convinced, but it sure would have been some easy cash...&quot;&quot;It's not an issue, it's a point of empirical fact. Good luck out there.&quot;I just can't believe that some people refuse to even take a look at why we say the HIV/AIDS is a myth. It's so frustrating!&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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