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    <title>The Frugivore Diet</title>
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        <entry>
            <title>Struggling for muscle gains on 801010</title>
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            <published>2014-11-28T07:50:18.000Z</published>
            <updated>2014-11-28T07:50:18.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Zeus Loréz</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/ZeusLorez</uri>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hi guys&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Im Zeus from Canary Islands, Spain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I've been living around Asia for the last 2 years &lt;span class=&quot;font-size-1&quot;&gt;(China, Thailand, Malaysia, Taiwan, Indonesia and Singapore) &lt;span class=&quot;font-size-2&quot;&gt;as my job requires to move every 3 or 4 months.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I've been fruitarian -or raw 801010 &lt;em&gt;(&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;9055&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; on average)&lt;/em&gt; for a year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Feeling great!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;The best choice I've done in my short life so far! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;But now I get some doubts about gaining muscle. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;First I want to clarify my believe system. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I believe &lt;strong&gt;REAL&lt;/strong&gt; muscle its hard to build up, so muscle gains can't be achieved in a short period of time &lt;em&gt;(like 3 months or so)&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Those fast gains &lt;em&gt;(&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;mass&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/em&gt; won't stay there too long if exercise its quitted for a couple of months because there is liquid retention and fat.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;So I'm focused more in &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;which&lt;/span&gt; gains will I get in the medium/long-term and that's why I don't care much about today's but still...  I care a bit  (:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;My background, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I've been practicing sports all my life, sometimes even playing more than 1 at a time, like I'm doing now. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;font-size-2&quot;&gt;First issue that I'm concerned with&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;After 2 years of bodybuilding I went up to &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;92kg/202pounds.&lt;/span&gt; I was 19 then. Now 26 and &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;75kg/165pounds&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Last year (&lt;em&gt;before becoming vegetarian and raw801010&lt;/em&gt;) I was diagnosed with Pernicious Anemia. Read a bit, became vegetarian and after 3 months the new blood test was better. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;Nowadays,  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I'm doing triathlon and weightlifting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Cardio in the &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;morning&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;em&gt;swimming, running or cycling, from 1 to 2 hours&lt;/em&gt;),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;and HIIT in the &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;evening&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;em&gt;two main muscle groups, alternating them everyday, from 20 to 45minutes&lt;/em&gt;). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Due to my job, there are resting days. On average one day and two trainings lost. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Im controlling the calorie intake by feelings but also using Cronometer (&lt;em&gt;just in case&lt;/em&gt;). Somedays get around 2 or 3 hundred additional calories (&lt;em&gt;just in case&lt;/em&gt;). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I'm active and fast, but &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;not stressed up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I'm getting 2 huge salads per day, depending on the country the vegetables vary. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#339966;&quot;&gt;Love them!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;What I definitely got with this lifestyle its fitness -meaning clean visibility of muscles fibres, elasticity and resistance. But about 3 months ago I started to lift pretty heavy weights in order to build up a bit of muscle &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot; class=&quot;font-size-3&quot;&gt;but&lt;/span&gt; &lt;strong&gt;in the mirror I look the same! &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;font-size-1&quot; style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Yes, I forgot measuring back then! &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;What do you think...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;Its the recovery time too short? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;The protein intake too low?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;The HIIT doesn't work?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;&quot;&gt;I will appreciate if you guys share any kind of experience, knowledge or criticisms. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;color:#000000;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;Have a great day, and enjoy your &lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;fruits&lt;/span&gt;! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;font-size-1&quot; style=&quot;font-family:helvetica;color:#808080;&quot;&gt;That's a picture of my actual shape. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191777694,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot;&gt;&lt;img width=&quot;750&quot; src=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191777694,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; class=&quot;align-right&quot; alt=&quot;8191777694?profile=original&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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