The Frugivore Diet

Have you recovered from CFS since being HCRV?

2014-02-07T16:47:12.000Z

Hi there,

I am new here and just in week 2. I've had CFS for several years and would find it hugely motivating to hear how other CFS sufferers have got on with this lifestlye.

I've had good days and bad days since starting. Is it normal to feel worse before feeling better?

If you have seen positive results or have recovered from CFS since being HCRV please post below. It would be great to hear from you.

many thanks

karen

Overcoming institutionalization.

2013-12-03T13:48:05.000Z

Some times feels like I'm permanently tired unable to forget the past and move on.Pretty difficult being the only vegan communist in a family that caused my negative thought patterns that lead to schizophrenia and being sectioned, heavily medicated and left to live in fear when all I needed was love.

Can any body recommend any therapists or recovery clinics in Totnes area or else where on the planet (taking in account of my low amount of money) and any nutritional boosters I could use to stay on my feet?

Andy

Thyroid Issues: To Take Iodine or Not?

2012-04-30T19:49:37.000Z

This is long.. sorry..

I suspect I have Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism, but have not been tested for it.

I have severe fatigue, that's gotten better (much better) going all raw. However, I still experience fatigue and feel tons and tons better when I take this supplement: http://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-Thyroid-Energy-Vcaps/dp/B0013OZCGE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335813861&sr=8-1

I am not taking it currently, and do find my strength and energy to be lower. And I'm struggling to take care of my two young kids.

When I've taken this supplement, I feel 'right as rain', but I want to heal my body and I don't know if I should go w/out it, in attempts to let my thyroid and body heal itself.

The ingredients are as follows: Vit. b 6: 2 mg, Folate: 400 mcg, Vit. b-12: 60 mcg, Iodine: 225 mcg, Zinc: 25 mg, Selenium: 50 mcg, Copper: 1 mg, L-Tyrosine - free-form: 1 g, Irish Moss: 200 mg, Guggul (resinous sap): 75 mg, Organic Kelp: 60 mg, Ashwagandha root: 50 mg, trace mineral concentrate: 5 mg, cellulose, magnesium stearate (veg source), cellulose and silica.

This brand is good w/ being gluten free and casein (dairy) free - I only trust this brand for any supps.

I am also heavy metal toxic and have heard what I'm toxic w/ (bromide) displaces the iodine in the thyroid. Also, I've had two children within the past 4 yrs. (depleting iodine further) I read iodine helps displace toxic bromide and flouride. I've only heard of two foods containing iodine: eggs and seaweed.

I don't believe this supp contains a stimulant (i've researched the ashwagandha) and I don't think it's a bad thing (?). And it doesn't feel at all like a stimulant, but ??

Obviously, I don't want to be on it forever and keep stopping taking it because I just want to be healed already, but does my thyroid need added iodine, as I don't think this is found in.. Well, look what I just found: http://sarah-tomley.suite101.com/safe-sources-of-iodine-for-people-with-hashimoto-a187255

Now, I feel dumb. Still, should I take these supps? My poor body has taken a beating! :/

Thanks for any thoughts!

CFS whole life veg dream turkey chase

2011-11-25T00:58:26.000Z

What might it mean if someone with chronic fatigue who has been veggie since conception and never tried turkey dreams a giant dangerous turkey is chasing them down the night before Thanksgiving?

CFS & 80/10/10

2011-09-26T15:22:55.000Z

I'm new to the 80/10/10 lifestyle and need some advice about how best to tackle the diet whilst having CFS.

I have read Doug Graham's book and have also listened/watched alot of Durianriders talks. Both guys are greatly inspirational and both are highly athletic. What I am wondering is about how much should I be eating? I've heard the 10g carbs/kg recommendations, but is that suitable for me if I am using a wheelchair (can only walk very very short distances i.e. just a few paces) and spend most of my day laying down?

My hope is that my tolerance for exercise, movement and walking will improve, as I improve my diet. And hopefully I will gain more energy and feel less sick. But in the mean time how do I make sure I eat enough without gaining weight (Already have weight issues).

My other question is how did the change in diet initially affect your CFS symptoms? I have heard lots of people say on here that long term it has made a huge difference to their health. But did the symptoms get worse first? Or change? I guess I am worried about the "CFS payback" that I am used to experiencing.

At the moment I am raw for breakfast and lunch, but am still transitioning with my evening meal. I am getting small spikes of energy, but feel the evening meal really brings me back down. I know that I need to tackle this asap, but I am struggling to make that final meal raw. But know I am on the right track.

Any advice gratefully received.

Much love

Zoe

Desperately Needing Encouragement

2010-08-04T10:04:51.000Z

Hi all, I'm pretty new to this group and have been giving LFRV my best shot. I am encountering many problems though and I'm wondering if others have been through the same thing when first starting out.

I have had chronic fatigue for a few years now and have suffered from depression and anxiety most of my life as well. I am finding that my fatigue is actually getting worse with this diet for some reason though! It's wonderful that I'm not tempted to stay up late and I'm having very restful sleeps - but I am SOOOO tired! I have a 2yr old daughter to look after and this is making my life harder right now! I no longer have the same enthusiasm I did when it comes to carrying out my day to day tasks (and I was already lacking in this department!)

I am also getting very sensitive teeth and muscle aches after every meal (like the lactic acid feeling you can get while exercising). I am really really keen to give this a shot as this diet makes complete sense to me and I wholeheartedly want to dive in 100%

I am also struggling because it is a very cold and wet winter over here in melbourne and while feeling all this discomfort I can't help but crave warm comforting foods. My fibromyalgia plays up more in the cold weather and I just feel so COLD and achy and like I have joints that need some serious oiling. My knees are particularly painful. It is also very difficult to find fruit that is in season over here other than apples and oranges (both of which increase the pain in my teeth).

Because I am so tired I am also finding the volume of food that I need to eat very challenging. Some days it is honestly too much to cut it all up and then chomp away at this ginormous salad. More often than not I am not meeting my appropriate caloric intake and then crave fats like avocado. I am aware that no overt fats at all would be ideal for someone in my situation, but I just can't seem to do that yet. I am breast feeding as well - so maybe this has something to do with it...?

Anyway, just thought I'd rant a bit as I have been truly struggling with this and it is getting me down right now. I want the same glowing level of health that I have read about so often on this forum and in the 80/10/10 book.

Help!
Melissa
:)

dealing with emotions and starting to blog

2009-06-19T14:29:19.000Z

helloi've started a blog:www.catalystisraw.blogspot.comalso keeping up with my 30bad blog at the moto hopefully chronicle my journey from CFS/ME to vibrant health with 811rv.at the moment its pretty focused on emotion as that's what i'm dealing with.also yay to cecilie for starting her blog here, please check it out herehttp://arawconnection.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=13i8ddpcxjce8for someone else who is also recovering from chronic fatiguejournalling seems to personally help me with keeping on track, seeing change, and having insights, as well as connecting with people. as well as a useful place to express those tricky emotions.hugsemx

and another one, this time about the effectiveness (or otherwise) of supplements

2009-06-05T18:14:06.000Z

http://arawconnection.ning.com/forum/topics/to-continue-or-not-continue?

an interesting thread :-)

2009-06-05T18:09:46.000Z

here's an interesting CFS related thread that i thought would be useful to put in this grouphttp://arawconnection.ning.com/forum/topics/detox-i-need-some-supportfeel free to share threads or other snippets that might be helpfulemx

my first crash since going 811 (7 days no overts now!)

2009-06-04T17:52:38.000Z

hello everyonejust wanted to share that i had my first proper ME/CFS crash today, since going full on 811rv. this is me trying to understand what precipitated it really, as i'm REALLY trying to avoid crashing, for obvious reasons, but also because i'm trying to learn to balance out my energy as i think its much more positive for me. crashing often takes days if not weeks to recover from, but i'm hoping with my new found 811, that this will lessen (this is one effect that raw food definitely has for me).so... today was a day for me and the people i live with in community to spend sharing about how we are living, our hope and dreams and fears, and plans for the future. a big day for me! in the winter, when i was bad, well even trying to hold any conversation was challenging! but i've been doing so good, guess i overestimated my powers somewhat. i should have read this as a potential 'crash' point, but didn't. several people talking for several hours about really important stuff, what was i thinking!!!!anyway... i actually managed about 3 hours (with breaks). which in itself is awesome. and some of it was difficult, and i was proud of how i could be really conscious, really express myself and listen to other people, and use some of my skills as a mediator to diffuse potentially conflictual conversations. but ... i reached a point where my brain just started shutting down. this is an interesting one for me... because in theory i've got good at noticing pre crash signs and taking myself off to bed sharpish. but i didn't this time. kept talking, and apparently, while i was making sense me, i really wasn't making any sense to other people. my energy dropped sharpish, i couldn't string sentences together, and before i knew it i was lying on the ground in a heap, hands over my eyes and ears (shutting out noise and light, which had REALLY intensified to painful levels), barely able to move, or communicate at all. its a strange feeling, like been at the bottom of a very deep well. there is some sensation, but very little.my lovely bf has experienced this before, and pretty much picked me up and took me to bed. cuddled me until i started to come out of it a bit. he's so wonderful :-))) i've been in bed ever since, but obviously somewhat functional as i wouldn't be writing this lol!so... a little wake up call to take things a bit easier i think. i'm also premenstrual which doesn't help. one of the interesting thoughts i did have at the bottom of that well was 'however crashed i get, i want to stay 811rv'. wow. ususally that's when i cave into cooked, when i'm crashed.anyway... i'll let you all know over the next few days how my recovery goes.hugs, especially to cecilie and anyone else really struggling with CFS/MEemxxx

Sad to be home today...

2009-05-29T18:27:38.000Z

Hi friends :) Just wanted to write a bit about how I feel today... The weather is so good today, its a holiday -so most people are out with family or friends. And Im sad to be inside, alone.My body is healing big time, no doubt. I feel like an animal who instinctively wants to hide away in a warm, quiet and safe place and just let the body do what it has to do.Mentally Im in this "stand-by mode", just quiet inside, not much going on. Kind of nice actually. I remember when I used to run, its kind of the same feeling...that your body is taking over and the mind can rest.On the other hand Im frustrated that another sunny day is passaing by without the chance to get out there and enjoy it.I have promised myself to save up money for a trip this winter. I hate winters, so staying inside these months feel like a crime ;) So I try to soothe myself with the thought that I will not have to go through another winter without any sunshine :)And I absolutely plan to be well enough at that time to be able to travel!So.....Life, sunshine and happy days, please wait for me, Im coming!!!

Our Stories

2009-05-25T14:42:56.000Z

we all have different stories... and as the years go by they get even more intricate and interesting.sharing stories is powerful, and reading other peoples stories can be inspiring and educational.so... feel free to share your story hereemxxx

Hello and welcome

2009-05-25T14:33:07.000Z

HelloI have started this group because I am healing from Chronic Fatigue (which I have had now for over 9 years), and I am finding the 811 path incredibly helpful in this process. I am hoping that there are others here who are also in a similar position, and that we can help each other in our healing processes.A first thought to start things off:for many years I have said to people 'I am suffering from CFS/ME', in conversation etc.NOW! I have changed this to 'I am healing from CFS/ME!'if you feel like you are suffering, rather than healing at the moment, what would it take to make that shift?ME/CFS is definitely a physical illness. No doubt about that. But all dis-ease is mental and spiritual as well as physical, so maybe consider how changing the words you use to relate to how you feel can change other things too.I spent all morning in bed. But now (3pm) I am sat up in bed drinking water and eating bananas, and even though its a slow day for me, I can feel my energy shifting, my walking is better, my brain is less foggy, and my recovery from crashing is better. 2009 is the year that I finally am healing!love and strawberriesemma