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        <entry>
            <title>Bodybuilding and Bulking on 801010</title>
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            <published>2018-03-15T21:56:36.000Z</published>
            <updated>2018-03-15T21:56:36.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Dave Goodman</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/DaveGoodman</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Howdy all!  I'm sure this subject has been touched on here in the past.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I *love* fasting and light eating - was raw vegan for years and can't wait to get back to it again. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the reasons I stopped with raw was because I had been getting really scrawny - down to 165 lb from over 250.  Just didn't feel strong.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now I'm much heavier and am looking for a better middle ground around 190-210 but muscular. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I started weight lifting last year, I realized I need to eat a *lot* more food than I was used to in order to avoid injuries during heavy lifting.  It's difficult to do without eating a lot of junk, and I was thinking it would be great to get into 801010 to support my workouts.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I haven't found anyone out there who has the build I am going for.  Lots of super skinny guys - some of whom can lift a lot of weight - but not really what I am after.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would love some feedback from fruitarian bodybuilders who can gain size and also get your take on the protein thing.  The standard wisdom of 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight seems insane to me - and obviously it is tailored towards SAD people.  What are your macros like for fruitarian while still building size and muscle?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks everyone!&lt;br /&gt;Dave&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>In need of advice</title>
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            <published>2015-09-21T19:02:01.000Z</published>
            <updated>2015-09-21T19:02:01.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Hillary Jourdan</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/HillaryJourdan</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hello all,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;    I've been lifting for a few months and I'm beginning to wonder if I'm doing this right.  I've definately toned up and I've been &lt;em&gt;slowly&lt;/em&gt; increasing my weight but I still have sme questions.  How should I be combining these moves in order to best maximize my efforts.  I've been taking plans off of bodybuilding.com or other youtubers.  Some are challenging and other days I'm not sore at all.  I've been doing higher reps (4x15s) for upper body and back, and switching between 5x5s and 4x15s for legs. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;   I was just hoping to get clarification on how all this effects muscle building and fat loss to best help move toward the body I want.  Also wanted to make sure I was asking a vegan community - meat eaters just don't get it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>help</title>
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            <published>2015-08-28T12:07:38.000Z</published>
            <updated>2015-08-28T12:07:38.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>yasmin tait</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/yasmintait</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;hey guys plz i need help and its being annoying me for the past few months okay&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i finish recovering from my eating disorder/anorexia in november, a during that time i was force to be pescetarianism until i was better so on november 10th 2014 i became vegan what i wanted to be for a long time but couldn't coz of my 2 years of that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;for the last 6 months i want to be a high car low fat vegan, but my parents and even my dietician would not alowed me and here are some of my parents reason &lt;br /&gt;1. carb makes you fat &lt;br /&gt;2.sugar makes you fat&lt;br /&gt;3. all those other people that do that must be doing exercise 24/7&lt;br /&gt;4. we by the food wait till you old enough to get your own place&lt;br /&gt;5. it cost lot of money &lt;br /&gt;6. you being brainwashed&lt;br /&gt;7. do what your dietician say she's the expert she study in these for over 12 years&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;okay 1st, yeah i did gain weight coz i try it for a month before my parents made m stop. i do cardio 5 days a week and weight training 6 days a week, im already vegan why cant i be high carb low fat vegan. even my dietician would allow me to do that. im 16 150cm (short for my age haha-4.9 foot) 55 kg.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;so my question is how can i get my parents and my dietician for letting me be a high carb low fat vegan thx you for your time&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Ramona's Raw Vegan/Vegan(coaching,personal training,meal planning-athletes/non-athletes) Services</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/ramona-s-raw-vegan-vegan-coaching-personal-training-meal-planning"/>
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            <published>2015-01-26T02:26:23.000Z</published>
            <updated>2015-01-26T02:26:23.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>RAMONA A. CADOGAN</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/RAMONAACADOGAN</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;I would like to provide my services for the above who are looking. I am the NY ambassador for Team Green at&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.officialteamgreen.com/&quot;&gt;www.officialteamgreen.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;. My services are online or in person. I have been in fitness since I was a child and as a professional since 1991. I have been vegan,raw vegan since 2006 and off meat since 2000. I am a certified personal trainer and Pilates instructor as well as an avid hula hooper.  Please subscribe to my youtube channel at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGJ1bf0-d6-1IQkSP0rHdDg&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGJ1bf0-d6-1IQkSP0rHdDg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;, IG as rawveganlifter and on Twitter as rawveganathlete. Please contact me on this site or at ramonacadogan@mail.adelphi.edu to discuss my services in detail. Namaste.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191344084,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;champion.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191350101,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;first veg school.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191342297,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Fruit Fest.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Do you have a back-up plan for aerobic training?</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/do-you-have-a-back-up-plan-for-aerobic-training"/>
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            <published>2014-05-25T13:29:24.000Z</published>
            <updated>2014-05-25T13:29:24.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Zeus Loréz</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/ZeusLorez</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi guys,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just got injured a week ago and seems like it will take time to recover properly. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, I was preparing myself for a marathon (I love running). That's my best way of burning calories and now I don't know what to do in order to burn calories. Maintaining shape its one of my goals now. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does anyone has a back-up plan for aerobic training? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm dealing with what on a first look its called &quot;&lt;span&gt;P&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;b1&quot;&gt;la&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;b2&quot;&gt;ntar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;b3&quot;&gt; fasciitis&quot;. Im able to walk properly but by forcing or stretching that zone, it hurts. &lt;br /&gt;I've been doing acupressure and applying ice. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for sharing knowledge, &lt;br /&gt;good luck and stay on the wagon! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheers! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>I'm on the way!</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/i-m-on-the-way"/>
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            <published>2014-05-01T09:09:59.000Z</published>
            <updated>2014-05-01T09:09:59.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Zeus Loréz</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/ZeusLorez</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't use to post pics of myself, but today I decided to do so, because like this we can prove (long and short distance) this lifestyle works.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also by doing so, we help others to stay on the wagon, like it happened to me (and its still happening). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to clarify, this ain't just about healthy-physical-good looking results. Its also about mindfulness, clarity, spiritual and energy improvements. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, this are pics on my 11th month as vegan, 9th as raw vegan and 2nd following 811. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hope it helps,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;best regards!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;190cm \ 6.2f&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;75kg \ 165lb&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191758486,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Photo on 01-05-2014 at 16.14 #2.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191758295,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Photo on 17-04-2014 at 17.59 copy 2.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191758873,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Photo on 18-04-2014 at 14.33 #2 copy 2.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>lifting is my favorite.</title>
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            <published>2014-04-15T22:03:54.000Z</published>
            <updated>2014-04-15T22:03:54.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Joelle Boustany</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/JoelleBoustany</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hey im new to this group, bodybuilding is right up my alley and I just had to join :) I lift heavy and I run fast...those are my fav things to do! :) id love to learn any eating tips for optimal performance...like the best fruit to eat before and after training, or if training on an empty stomach first thing in the morning is best?...also wouldnt mind connecting with some like minded fruitarians aswell :)&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Powerlifting journal May 3rd meet</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/powerlifting-journal-may-3rd-meet"/>
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            <published>2014-04-15T17:29:16.000Z</published>
            <updated>2014-04-15T17:29:16.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Justin Morgan</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/JustinMorgan</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm starting a powerlifting journal today.  My meet is on May 3rd, so I've pretty much built all the strength that I can (or close to it) for now.  I've dramatically altered my weekly routine to only squating/bench/deadlifting at various percentages or weights.  I'm working up to heavy sets of 3 this week for 2 sets on my heavy lifts, and on the lighter lifts I'm just doing a few sets of 5 at a light weight.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*please feel free to comment or critique if anyone see's anything, or just wants to say hi.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4/15/14&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Heavy Squat day (Pounds) - 165x5, 205x5, 245x3, 285x3, 335 for 2 sets of 3&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Heavy Bench day (pounds) - 135x5, 155x5, 185x3, 205x3, 245 for 2 sets of 3&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Light Deadlift day - 225x5, 275x5, 315 for 2 sets of 5&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Next week will be 5 sets of one on the heavy sets, and then the week of the meet will be really light sets so that I can be fully rested and recovered on meet day.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today i also went and trained at a gym which is abnormal, I usually prefer to train at my house where I have Olympic weights and a deadlift platform.  i just got a new personal trainer job though, and i wanted to get familiar with the facility.  I won't do that again.  It's a fine place and not many people were there, but it was a little harder to have my &quot;eye on the tiger&quot; with a lady that was at least 150 years old wondering around trying to figure out each machine, and pop music rolling throughout the gym.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>The Unavoidable Protein Question</title>
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            <published>2014-01-29T22:11:21.000Z</published>
            <updated>2014-01-29T22:11:21.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Raw Vegan Training (Mike)</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/RawVeganTrainingMike</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've been vegan for 13 years and still can't get away from the &quot;how do you get enough protein?&quot; question. It's crazy. I've been doing high raw 801010 since last spring and I get that question even more (&quot;how can 10% protein possibly be enough to sustain life?!&quot;). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I finally got around to making a video with my thoughts on the question. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.30bananasaday.com/video/protein-on-raw-vegan-801010-fruitarian-deadlifts-2x-bodyweight&quot;&gt;http://www.30bananasaday.com/video/protein-on-raw-vegan-801010-fruitarian-deadlifts-2x-bodyweight&lt;/a&gt; Wanted to see what my fellow weightlifters and bodyshapers thought about protein. Do you feel like it's pretty easy to get on 801010 or high carb veganism?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Introduction</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/introduction"/>
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            <published>2013-11-04T08:55:39.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-11-04T08:55:39.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Fiona J. Croft</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/FionaJCroft</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have just joined this group so I thought I better introduce myself and post a couple of pictures as evidence of our obvious common thread that we all have. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am very fortunate to have trained my whole life in gymnastics and Kung Fu so throughout my whole adult life I have stayed pretty much the same. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Through my whole time training in Kung Fu which was from the ages of 22 to 35, my Sifu unfortunately put a hugh over emphasis on protein. So whilst I was vegetarian before I went into it, he quickly swayed me into eating fish,  protein powder and the the odd bit of meat. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ive  been high carb, mostly raw vegan now for only 6 months.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What made a huge impact in my mind about the whole protein training thing was when Durianrider said something like, if you eat an abundance of fruit and veggies, you can naturally trust without thinking about it, that your body will be provided for with sufficient protein. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, for the very first time in my adult training life, I stopped thinking about where I was going to get my protein from, and I started to trust in an abundance of fruit and veggies. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since then, I swear I don't give protein a second thought. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The only bad thing that I have is a severe iron deficiency but I have had that forever so I guess Im used to it. A recent blood test also indicated 109 mmol/L for chloride. Just a little on the high side.  Anion gap was 7 and uric acid was a little on the lower side  at 2.6. Silly me forgot to request B12.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have a little spare tyre below my belly button as you can clearly see in my picture.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What I find most of all about the way my body works, is that I have to be so on top of myself to achieve the results that I want to achieve. And I guess that is to be super cut like Freelee but without even trying. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just have to do a little fine tuning.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can anybody offer me any advice on my iron deficiency. Absorption problem maybe? Im so&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;naughty for still drinking  coffee. Maybe thats impairing everything from my iron levels to my lymphatics. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The only thing thats kinda bad about once being at elite levels of training, is that the workouts I do now dwarf my previous training and sometimes I feel like I could or should be doing more. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But, this is the awesome thing about our lifestyle.  Minimum effort but with maximum results. I always hear Freelee saying this way of eating takes years to correct before you start seeing the results you want. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyhow, thats me. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Warm regards to everybody,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fiona J. Croft &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191731056,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IMG_1643.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8190646498,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;P1030382.JPG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191730653,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;IMG_1614.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>hey guys new to the group</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/hey-guys-new-to-the-group"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/hey-guys-new-to-the-group</id>
            <published>2013-06-13T05:15:38.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-06-13T05:15:38.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Ndem Nkem</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/NdemNkem</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;i love bodybuilding and just wanted some eating tips.i'm new to raw food and i want to make sure i'm eating enough to continue building muscle.love to friend anyone that's into fitness&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Progress pics since going low fat Raw</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/progress-pics-since-going-low-fat-raw"/>
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            <published>2013-06-06T20:20:13.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-06-06T20:20:13.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Kelly</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Kelly670</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was just going through some progress pics today and thought I would share. The earlier ones are from about 8 months ago when i was eating mostly cooked vegan. I have made the transition to raw since then and progressed to now Low fat Low Protein Raw....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;by no means am I a great &quot;poser&quot; usually I end up feeling dumb while taking these but Its the best way for me to track my progress.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;back shots&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191716899,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;DSC02638.JPG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191717693,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;DSC02864.JPG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>TRAINING PARTNER REQUEST</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/training-partner-request"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/training-partner-request</id>
            <published>2013-05-27T01:08:14.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-05-27T01:08:14.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>RAMONA A. CADOGAN</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/RAMONAACADOGAN</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am looking for a training partner in the NYC area or on Long Island.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Advice for a woman wanting to build muscle?</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/advice-for-a-woman-wanting-to-build-muscle"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/advice-for-a-woman-wanting-to-build-muscle</id>
            <published>2013-04-09T03:05:37.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-04-09T03:05:37.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Lilly</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Lilly</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hello! I am transitioning to become fully 80/10/10 but at the same time I want to focus on building muscle and gaining strength. I have begun kickboxing twice a week and have the insanity workout,,, any advice?&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Best Recovery foods?</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/best-recovery-foods"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/best-recovery-foods</id>
            <published>2013-03-25T20:52:05.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-03-25T20:52:05.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Iconoclast</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Iconoclast</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just find it a mite ridiculous that after two days I am still as sore as the day I worked out(miight have to do with the fact I am way under eating, come to find out when I plugged into cronometer), I was wondering what foods should I focus on after workouts?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm still learning to eat more, so I do basically raw all day and eat cooked at night.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did squats, lunges, wall leans, jumping jacks, and pushups and my quads are whats hurting the most, my biceps just feel leaner/harder?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, and what would be good work outs for someone just starting out?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Compare strength training on a cooked sad diet and lfrv.</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/compare-strength-training-on-a-cooked-sad-diet-and-lfrv"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/compare-strength-training-on-a-cooked-sad-diet-and-lfrv</id>
            <published>2013-02-06T16:23:03.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-02-06T16:23:03.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Cary L</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/CaryL</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Any of you who were serious trainers on a typical bodybuilding diet, such as a 30-30-40 fat, protien, carb split(with meat) that have comments about the differences you see in your strength/size on lfrv? I completely believe in the lfrv lifestyle (although occasionally I struggle with cooked vegan due to a brutal work schedule/sleep loss). For health we all know nothing comes close to lfrv but building substantial muscle???&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>building your upper body</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/building-your-upper-body"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/building-your-upper-body</id>
            <published>2013-02-06T06:24:07.000Z</published>
            <updated>2013-02-06T06:24:07.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>William Goering</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/WilliamGoering</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;For some reason it is rather difficult for me to build quality chest muscles. I can tighten them up and tonify a bit with wight lifting but im not getting the definition and size that I want. when im on schedual Im lifting heavy weights mixed with light weight low reps, Im eating enough forsure, and im resting a good amount. over time i see a gradual increase, but i feel like there is something i could be doing to be more efficient.  Let me know if you guy's have any advice on this subject. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;thanks will G.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>UFC High intensity workouts, T-Nation, Tabata etc.</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/ufc-high-intensity-workouts-t-nation-tabata-etc"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/ufc-high-intensity-workouts-t-nation-tabata-etc</id>
            <published>2012-03-25T15:46:22.000Z</published>
            <updated>2012-03-25T15:46:22.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Trysta</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Trysta</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey everyone,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just thought I'd open a discussion on what types of high intensity workouts everyone is doing and what you've gotten out of them.  When my respiratory issues flare, it keeps me from being able to go a full hour for most workout videos, and to be honest, videos sometimes bore the crap out of me.  I was attracted to Tabata style interval training due to the fact that I have little pockets of time during my day where I can hit a high intensity workout, recover then do another one later.  I actually prefer workouts with no music where I can just focus.  I do body weight exercises, military type moves, use dummbells, bar, sandbag and have a kickboxing bag on a stand, jump rope - fighting type workout equipment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So for any of you who has done, or is doing Tabata style workouts (T-Nation workouts too) and  mixed martial arts workouts - how does that compare to P90X?  I've passed the fit test and thinking of buying it. Reading your posts &amp;amp; it seems to be right in line with what I'm doing now.  I have Power90, Horton's old tame DVDs and was just wondering if P90X moves along a lot faster with less filler moves if you know what I mean.  I really don't rest between sets much with what I'm doing now.  Any comments greatly appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Milestones</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/milestones"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/milestones</id>
            <published>2011-12-18T02:52:12.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-12-18T02:52:12.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Christopher</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Christopher</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;What are you guys most cherished milestones? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally, I am most proud of my brute strength increases over the past year and half. I am archaic in my measures... ;) (still use the old high school benchmarks to measure success) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bench Press: 295&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leg Press: 1000&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Squat: 365&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This post isn't a competition, just a self pat on the back. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Maximum Muscle Growth</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/maximum-muscle-growth"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/maximum-muscle-growth</id>
            <published>2011-09-18T01:15:43.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-09-18T01:15:43.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Eli</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Eli334</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a long post, with a lot of information I have learned about bodybuilding, I really apologize, this will be a long read most likely for you all, but benefit very greatly in heightening muscle mass and improving body compostion at full genetic level. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Optimal Exercises: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Back: Dumbell rows, as they stimulate more back muscles than any other back exercises, making sure bringing the barbell up to the belly button and swaying slighty up to avoid continuous tension in the lower back. Continuous tension also results to more injury probability, as shown by static exercises. Finishing off with dumbell pullovers to cause the stretch in the muscle inducing more blood flow and working the anterior serratus more significantly. 8-10 reps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chest: Variations of chest barbell/dumbell press, such as incline and decline rather than only flat bench, which stimulates the chest in different areas. Also, finishing off with flies after the bench exercises causes more stretch to the muscles allowing more bloodflow --&amp;gt; more nutrient transport --&amp;gt; more growth. 8-10 reps. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bicepts: Preacher curls! The reason for these type of &quot;stretching&quot; exercises also benefits in that there is no continuous tension and the highest tension is at the moment where the muscle is most elongated and impacts a larger surface area in the position, which causes the maximum &quot;peak&quot; effect at the bicepts, making it more ball shaped. 8-10 reps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shoulders: Dumbell raises variations, really effects the striations of the muscle since the highest tension is at the point of lowest potential gravity. Making sure of course doing rear dumbell flies, and front dumbell raises as well to affect the posterior and anteriors as well. 8-10 reps, making sure to not use heavy weights for this one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quads: Squats and/or smith machines with high weight, not locking out the knees at end of movement, keeping legs close together to affect quads more than inner thighs. Lunges are also awesome to use from time to time to work the glutes as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hamstrings: Stiff leg deadlifts.. Not ever doing drop sets on these, very prone to injury! Great opposed to hamstring curls, which implement more isolation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tricepts: Skull crushers! Making sure to keep the elbows in and doing slow controlled movements. Another exercises with the maximum tension at the lowest point of the movement, when the muscle is elongated. Doing it in proper form avoids elbow pain. 8-10 reps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Brachialis: Hammer curls, great exercise to hit the muscle while hitting others as well. 8-10 reps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Calves: Standing calve raises, with dumbells. 20+ reps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Traps: Dumbell shrugs. 8-10 reps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Abs: Crunches/Leg raises, with weight adding as getting stronger to make the rep range get to 20 reps at failure. Using weights for ab exercises does not promote the big belly of roid users, crunches keep the midsection flat and diced. Keeping legs slightly bent, keeping the movement from going too high to unaffect the muscle, as it is primarily slow twitch.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Obliques: Side sways with dumbells 25 reps each side.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Monday :  CHEST : 3 Sets of incline chest press &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;                              3  Sets of Decline Barbell Press   &lt;br /&gt;                              2  sets of Flat bench Dumbbell Press                             &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;                              2  sets of decline Dumbbell Flies             &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;                TRICEPS : Flat Bench Head Crushers 3  sets                             &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;                               Incline Bench Head Crushers 3  Sets &lt;br /&gt;                BICEPS : 5  sets of Barbell Preacher curls will a straight Barbell &lt;br /&gt;                BRACHIALIS: 3 sets of hammer curls no drop sets&lt;br /&gt;                ABS : 3 sets of crunches &lt;br /&gt;                         3 Sets of Leg raises ( 20 reps) if you have strong abs add a 5 lbs+ dumbbell &lt;br /&gt;                         2 sets of Dumbbell oblique Sways (25 reps)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Wednesday:&lt;br /&gt;                 BACK: 4  Sets of Dumbbell Rows &lt;br /&gt;                       4  sets Barbell Rows   &lt;br /&gt;                       3 Sets of pull overs no drop sets&lt;br /&gt;                 SHOULDERS: 3  sets of Barbell Press  &lt;br /&gt;                              3 Sets of Barbell Front raises  &lt;br /&gt;                              3  sets of reverse flies  &lt;br /&gt;                 TRAPS : 3  Sets of Shrugs   &lt;br /&gt;                 ABS : 3 sets of crunches                   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;                          3 Sets of Leg raises if you have strong abs add 5 lbs                     &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;                          2 sets of Dumbbell oblique Sways &lt;br /&gt; Friday:&lt;br /&gt;         QUADS : LEG Press : 4 SETS of 8 ( don't dare doing Drop sets if you are not lifting&lt;br /&gt;                                          serious weights for years, legs are big muscles and pump an  enormous amount of blood, Drop sets are for advanced Bodybuilders when it comes to legs)                                        &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;                                         4 Series of Squats (4 to 5 reps each) (smith machine)                 HAMSTRINGS: 5 Sets of 8 of Stiff Legs dead lifts ( warm up well for this one and if &lt;br /&gt;                               you have trouble doing it, replace it with Leg Curls.&lt;br /&gt;        CALVES : it's up to you, any machine at the gym will do good ( don't spend more &lt;br /&gt;                         than 20 min here though)&lt;br /&gt;         ABS : 3 sets of crunches &lt;br /&gt;                  3 Sets of Leg raises if you have strong abs add a 5 lbs dumbbell&lt;br /&gt;                  2 sets of Dumbbell oblique Sways  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On a three minute interval per set, so each workout should take 1:10 to 1:20. Putting on some music to feel chill helps with any excess cortisol levels.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eating fats (around 7:00 pm) as a last meal promotes steady low ennergy over a long period of time compared to sugars before bed, which do not keep sugar levels moderate for long periods of time like fats, ultimately preventing any catabolic response during the nightly fast. (Gotten from Tim Van Orden)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Getting at least 9 hours of sleep a day for maximum potential growth (Chris Califano)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eating every 2.5 hours to 3 hours keeps blood sugars from dropping and going into catabolistic response by that stimulus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Making sure to stay unstressed, being outside more on a daily basis and relaxing helps promote lower levels of cortisol, an antagonist to testosterone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Working out in the morning on an empty stomach when testosterone is higher than the rest of the day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Obtaining lots of UV exposure which has impact on muscle growth, it increases testosterone levels significantly, and looking less pale makes a person look more toned as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Notice how in the sets that antagonist muscles are working on different days, this is to &quot;surprise&quot; the body more by doing an opposite movement creating more shock for it to grow. The slow twitch muscles are there to workout every day because of there recuperation rate and endurance to stress and tension. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Keeping cardio at a max of 20-30 minutes a day helps the best for more muscle growth, and at a heart rate of 135-140 BPM. It should be easy and to be able to talk in a conversation  without trouble with breathcontrol. Also keeping away from the part of the day when lifting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If lifting or being already an advanced body builder, trying drops sets for the exercises not saying &quot;no drop sets&quot;. The beauty of drop sets is that they work both concentrations of slow and fast twitch muscle fibers, creating a lot of beautiful aesthetics and fitness. They work both fibers because 1. Lots of reps, so slow twitch endurance 2. fast twitch because of gradual decline of resistance, but difficulty doesn't decrease.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not recommending cables or weight machines because of lack of use of the stability muscles, and lack of elongation at the highest tension of the movement.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lifting the weight s with proper form and concentration at a very slow speed helps the impact on the muscles, breathing in on the positive, and out on the negative, focusing about 1-2 seconds on the positive, and 3-4 on the negative movement to the starting position.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Taking a hanful of dates after a workout spikes the blood sugar levels the best for optimal recovery, even better than any other dextrose supplement which has a GI of 100 compared to dates 103.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Drinking lots of water (3L+) and eating 10g carbs per kilo ideal body weight.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In four months, regardless of genetics, there will be a great noticable improvement with consistency of training 3.5-4 hrs a week. I hoped this helped, I gathered all of this information from many experienced body builders guarranteeing maximum results in body cmposition for muscle growth.  The hard part is restraining from cable exercises and machines that will hinder progress. :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Best wishes and health to all with happy lifting,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Eli&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PS: I had a ton of muscle mass before burning out (190 lbs -150 lbs), and in two months, regained 3/4 of it (180 lbs 9% bf!!) I will show a before/after when another two months are over. This is about half a year of research put together in a summary from experienced natural bodybuilders on both SAD and LFRV that have amazing results. I wanted to share this with you because I am amazed and astounded at my progress following this advice and working up to be diced and ripped by the day from this routine!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Just the beginning!!</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/just-the-beginning"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/just-the-beginning</id>
            <published>2011-08-14T17:16:47.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-08-14T17:16:47.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Erin Moubray</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/ErinMoubray</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191614454,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;align-full&quot; src=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191614454,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; width=&quot;387&quot; alt=&quot;8191614454?profile=original&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So this was taken at my last competition. I was eating a vegan diet...however not raw. I have just switched to a LFRV diet in the past couple weeks. I am two weeks out of my biggest show to date. I have yet to receive my copy of 80/10/10 in the mail so I am going by only what I have read online for diet guidance!! I feel much better and have tons of energy so far!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Evidence-Based Resistance Training Recommendations</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/evidence-based-resistance-training-recommendations"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/evidence-based-resistance-training-recommendations</id>
            <published>2011-08-11T06:36:07.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-08-11T06:36:07.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>JackFruitFighter</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/JackFruitFighter</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medicinasportiva.pl/new/pliki/ms_2011_03_08_Fisher.pdf&quot;&gt;http://www.medicinasportiva.pl/new/pliki/ms_2011_03_08_Fisher.pdf&lt;/a&gt;Found the above to be one of the best overall scientific analyses in weight training protocols out there.Enjoy.&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Anybody with insight???????</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/anybody-with-insight"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/anybody-with-insight</id>
            <published>2011-05-16T18:05:42.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-05-16T18:05:42.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>goddesstwin2</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/goddesstwin2</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Intervals.  Intervals to me are the most important exercise for maximum fat loss. I love to jump rope, and I go to the track or beach and Sprint. 2 questions:1) Does anyone have any insight/experience with specific sprint intensity/rest times for &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;font-size-5&quot;&gt;maximum results&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;? Duration of Exercise?????????  Intervals per week??????????&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Example: (this is to give an idea of what I'm referring to)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt; Warm up: 5 min&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt; 80% intensity 1 min.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;active rest 1 min.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt; repeat 10x&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cool down: 5 min.  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;30 minutes/day  3x/week&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot;&gt;?????????????????????????&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2) What are other techniques with exercise that Maximizes Muscle gain, nutrient absorption, Fat loss? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Advice needed on bodybuilding competition</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/advice-needed-on-bodybuilding"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/advice-needed-on-bodybuilding</id>
            <published>2011-05-01T16:17:34.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-05-01T16:17:34.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Eli</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Eli334</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi guys,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am planning to go into a bodybuilding contest this september and have been lifting everyday for an hour. Basically now I am 6' 1'' (185 cm) and am 170 lbs, and at around 15% bodyfat, my abs are like a 4.5 pack right now, so just estimating.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Does anybody have any tips how to help my progress to get down to 8% BF and still stay around at the same weight? Any experience would be great to read!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have been 5.5 months on lfrv&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thankyou!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Elijah&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>LFRV since November</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/lfrv-since-november"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/lfrv-since-november</id>
            <published>2011-04-05T18:43:41.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-04-05T18:43:41.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>MarkAngelo Cummings</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/MarkAngeloCummings</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey guys just wanted to share my enthusiasm and physique on a 100% LFRV lifestyle. This is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I am a certified nutritonal consultant, master personal trainer as well as occupational therapist and recording artist who is trying to spread the love of fruits and veggies to my earthly family. I have lost 40 pounds of fat and maintained a nice muscular physique through out. My work out consists of jogging 3 days a week, 2 days of rebounding, and 5 days of strength training mixing it up with functional activities, isometrics and just my own brew of knowledge thrown in the mix. I trained many bodybuilders and put on several shows in the South Florida area a while back. I am now just coasting, enjoying my garden and trying to be sustainable so that I can produce my bounty of fruits and veggies and show others how to do the same if they are up to it. Any how I am proud to be part of such wonderful human beings who care about their planet, self and each other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Peace, Love, and Fortitude&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;MarkAngelo&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8188909083,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;raw vegan lifestyle journey 008.JPG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8188978652,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;progress 009.JPG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;attachment&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8188977875,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;the circle of life 026.JPG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>precision training</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/precision-training"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/precision-training</id>
            <published>2011-03-12T21:18:44.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-03-12T21:18:44.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>sun</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/sun</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know Pete Sisco (Who started Static Contraction training) We used to talk a lot&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I read all 4 books.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and I used to do his covers in the beginning years ago.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nice fellow and highly qualified and very exacting - details and monitoring results.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;listen to your body!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;using the max weright possible means &quot;possible&quot;including how it feels.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You are not trying to break anyone's records including your own.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Static Contraction Training by Pete Sisco</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/static-contraction-training-by"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/static-contraction-training-by</id>
            <published>2011-03-11T16:38:37.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-03-11T16:38:37.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Superhuman</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Superhuman</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Have anyone tried this?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Its like max effort in your strongest range of motion, 10 exersices and you hold it there for 5 seconds. Ive read his books and it seems logical, but i dont know. There are also alot of testemonials but i want more and also pictures.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.precisiontraining.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.precisiontraining.com/&lt;/a&gt; is his site&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>Post workout meals. Tell me what you mow down after a workout!</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/post-workout-meals-tell-me"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/post-workout-meals-tell-me</id>
            <published>2011-02-01T03:43:08.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-02-01T03:43:08.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>David Scott Myers/neon warrior</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/DavidScottMyersneonwarrior</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;My main question is, a full raw meal like a 10 banana smoothie? or something lighter just after a workout. or.. whatever works for you.&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>increasing prot intake without fat?</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/increasing-prot-intake-without"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/increasing-prot-intake-without</id>
            <published>2011-01-28T04:01:18.000Z</published>
            <updated>2011-01-28T04:01:18.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>thierry&quot;pasteque/watermelon man&quot;</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/thierrypastequewatermelonman</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;hi all of you!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i've think many time before starting a new discussion , but really need some advise and support , and i think here can find!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;briefly i'm 37 years old , rather skinny person , but i come back from &quot;hell&quot; (for those interested , my &quot;story&quot; is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.30bananasaday.com/group/811hivdissidents/forum/topics/a-personal-testimonial-about&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; ) so actually i'm 5.74 feet high for around 105 lb , body fat around 4%.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;my caloric intake actually turns around 2700 cal and eatch day i try to increase (yeah i know it should be more , i do what i can!! :=)  )&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i train at least two hours per day , mostly bodyweight exercice , running and stretch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;my lower body is quite ok since i use to be a long distance runner and i can still perform easily more than 200 bodyweight squat (harder for one leg squat , not so strong :=)  )  and core also is quite ok (perform easily crunches , plank exercice for more than 10 min and so on.....)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;actually i try to develop my upper body which has always been my weak point (as a runner i didn't develop it) and it's still hard for me to do more than 8 push up even if i train hard...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;so here's my question, since i focus on muscle developpement , practice specific bodyweight strength training (i have read and read advise by mike , luke and all of you , read on on web page on bodyweight ex and so on...) but i don't feel my muscle develop so well , could i consider highering a bit my protein intake and in whitch way?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-highering my global intake,,? of course , and i go in this direction , but can't go speeder than now.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-highering my prot intake (which is actually according to cron o meter , mostly aropund 5% and fat around 6% ) yes but how to without highering fat intake and fat really make me sick.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i'm currently in thailand , eat fruits , veggies , no problem , sometimes avocado but not often and try with raw soaked peanuts , but really find them &quot;dry&quot; even so and peanuts are not so easy to digest&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;is there any fruit or natural product i have not thing about that can help me (in case of you think that highering prot intake is a good idea)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;any advise wrmly welcome!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
        </entry>
        <entry>
            <title>P90X, P90, Insanity etc.</title>
            <link rel="alternate" href="https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/p90x-p90-insanity-etc"/>
            <id>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/groups/weightliftingandbodyshaping/forum/topics/p90x-p90-insanity-etc</id>
            <published>2010-10-30T02:37:06.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-10-30T02:37:06.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>Christopher</name>
                <uri>https://www.thefrugivorediet.com/members/Christopher</uri>
            </author>
            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Has anyone had any experience with any of the Beachbody programs listed or any similar? I recently purchased P90X, but after 2 weeks of it I had to 'downgrade' to P90 due to &quot;X&quot; being too far above my physical abilities at the moment. I am going to do it at a later date when I lose enough body fat to be able to do more of the exercises without modification. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am liking P90 right now though and I hope to break the plateau of fat loss I have recently hit. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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