Doug G says this in some videos and I heard DR say it in some too but I can't find the videos now. But where are they getting this from? I tried looking it up but nothing came up. Also for the 5% protein WHO recommendations, everyone always quotes it but I cant find that either, and its kind of important for a discussion with someone. :)
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Ok I asked Dr G on vegsource and this is what he said:
Heck, I learned that info back in school. Do you want the teacher's name? I would guess that Dr. Pettit is either very old now, or dead, but I could try to find out. We're talking 35 years... I had several other nutrition teachers tell me the same thing.
The WHO info is on their site.
LOL, YES! Doug Graham's response was exactly what I was thinking when I first read your question. It's pretty common knowledge. All you have to do is compare the average vitamins and minerals of fruit and vegetables against other food group averages and bam, you have your answer. It's not an opinion. It's just a well known, easily acceptable, fact. :)
But I think it's actually wrong lol
I believe vegetables are the highest vitamin and mineral content food group per calorie.
I did a little number crunching and made a comparison of 5 popular vegetables vs 5 popular fruits. It was Kale, Arugula, Cucumber, Lettuce and Tomatoes vs Bananas, Strawberries, Mangos, Dates and Watermelon, all raw. Of course, you don't even need to compare it with other food groups because their ANDI is so low. Results:
Vegetables had a vitamin ratio (mg/calorie) of 1,51
The fruits got 0,37 (4x less vitamin content per calorie)
Vegetables got a mineral content ratio (mg/calorie) of 16,73
Fruits - 3,93 (4,2 times less minerals)
Of course this is a very very small scale test, but it gives us an idea.
So yeah, don't skip your huge-ass salad! :)
Fruits are still amazing though, you can get calories in an easier and delicious way while still getting great nutrition :)
Yes, this is what Joel Fuhrman says in his book. Veggies are the most nutrient dense. That is why he recommends a pound of raw veggies and a pound of cooked veggies per day (or at least make that your goal). But yeah, you gotta eat your fruits too, or else it's gonna be hard to get enough calories! :)
Ah yes, crunching the numbers per calorie would make vegetables the obvious number 1 for both vitamins and minerals for sho'. However, we can't exactly eat 2500 calories of romaine and celery easily. ;) Yes, veggies are rich in vitamins and minerals, but it's easier to get your mass doses of vitamins (and calories) from fruits, and your trace mineral requirements from veggies. :) No need to over-think it too much. :D
<p>Exactly, Fuhrman doesn't factor in the importance of meeting the bodys carbohydrate needs. It doesn't matter how much nutrition you're getting if your basic calorie needs aren't being met because your body won't have the fuel it needs to be processing and healing with that nutrition. There's a reason why human beings crave sugar so much. McDougall was right when he said that the primary role of food is fuel not actually vitamins and minerals, they come second. The problem with veg is that it just isn't calorie dense enough to meet our primary fuel needs and it's why it comes second to fruit in the end. So yep, fruit and veg are the best!! :)
So I guess its not like a fact, its more like an opinion of some people? So that answers my question.
Well, maybe your question can be answered in another way... which is evaluating both food groups by their Aggregate Nutrient Density Index (ANDI, by Dr. Joel Fuhrman - read the book Nutritarian Handbook & ANDI Food Scoring Guide).
Vegetables and Fruits ARE the most nutrient-dense foods in planet Earth, period. It goes loosely in this order:
Green Vegetables (ANDI = 500-1000), Nongreen Vegetables (ANDI = 150-500), Fruits (ANDI = 60-200), Beans (ANDI = 50-100), Nuts & Seeds (ANDI = 25-80)
You have stuff like White Pasta (ANDI = 16), Vanilla Ice Cream (ANDI = 9) and Cola (ANDI = 1) lol.
Vegetables are probably the richest group in both minerals and vitamins per calorie (among other nutrients), but we would have to build a database to be really sure that fruits don't surpass them in the vitamin area... I don't think that has been done yet :p
Ok thanks :)
Dear Michaela
Check out the following site for info on fruits and vegetables:
http://www.lenntech.com/fruit-vegetable-vitamin-content.htm
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