Its funny how different your perspective is when you learn about a high carb vegan lifestyle and especially when you start living it. Everything changes. You look at things so differently. I now notice really how depressed, grumpy, irritable, and unpleasant most people are who are eating a SAD, high fat, animal based diet. They're always complaining about their problems and they always have the stupidest little problems. "This damn remote wont work!" They're just.. unhappy. How can you be happy when you're not getting sufficient carbohydrates and ingesting toxic food at every meal? They also seem to have a new physical problem everyday. I see this too often now in my family, friends and just random strangers. It is soo easy to see now, they aren't getting enough carbohydrates and are dehydrated! You can see this by the food they always go for-sweets. I feel like I know the secret to life.
My aunt and cousins come over everyday and they are a perfect example of this. Soo grumpy, unhappy, always yelling and bickering. My 4 year old cousin's diet is horrible. She eats junk food for breakfast, if anything. She eats ice cream, candy, freezies, all day. A lot of milk, cheese, meat and juice boxes, not even the good kind if there is one, she has the koolaid jammer kind. She probably throws like 20 tantrums just in the time she's at my house, screaming at the top of her lungs. Am I right to say she's under-carbed? And the whole time everyone else is yelling and freaking out sometimes i feel like saying 'carb the fruit up!'
Another sign is that she asks for ice cream like 5 times a day. And when she doesn't get it she throws a huge tantrum. I really feel like explaining all of this to my family. "You are not getting sufficient carbohydrates in your system, that is why you are miserable and so unhappy with life. This is the reason Bree always wants ice cream, cookies, cake, candy, popsicles all the time. We try to get carbohydrates from these foods because they are sweet and contain sugar-which we need but from the form of fruit and starchy foods. Eat more of these foods please. I don't want to hear you screaming all day from my room, thanks. :)" This is just what I am thinking, I don't know exactly what I would say.
I'm curious, did you notice the same thing in people once you started a high carb vegan lifestyle? And did you tell them about it? I kind of feel like, people cant change if they don't know. Also, any suggestions of what I should say, I don't understand this concept fully.. so we try to get sugar(carbs) from foods like ice cream, candy, etc. and these are one of the first things we go for because they taste soo sweet and have so much sugar in them so the sugar is like a form of carbs for our body?
I always wonder though.. why do people crave meat? Like dairy I understand, it is addictive because of the casomorphines. And other processed foods are addictive because they have addictive chemicals in it that are added. Is meat also addictive? What is addictive about it? I think like.. if you ate a part of a raw animal it would taste disgusting.. or even prepared, cleaned, chemicals added to it, raw meat is disgusting to most people, it only tastes good after cooking.. and even then people add all kinds of stuff to it.
I just really want to understand all of this for when I explain it to them so I know what I am talking about. Also, any personal stories or any help would be great :) thanks!
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let them see you eating a boatload of fruit when ever you see them that image is powerful
Sorry that was kind of long haha, my question might have gotten lost in it.
I mainly want to know, do you think eating more high carb foods would help them? How should I explain it to them? Has anyone ever dealt with anyone like this where you just felt the need to tell them to carb up? or is my family just crazy..
Your family sounds like 90% or more of most families. high carb foods would make an improvement in anyone's life. but people will resent you for telling them what to put in their mouths. when people see how happy and thriving they are and they are ready for change, they will ask you what you're doing. I actually found this lifestyle because i saw a vibrant vegetarian online and im like i always feel so sickly. I want to be more like this person. I watched a few more of her videos and there was a recommendation for a freelea video. People will want to mimic you when they see that they're doing well. You can't really be pushy..or any conversion may backfail...
thanks that's a relief to hear! im not going to tell them what to eat really, im just going to tell them the information they need to hear to make informed decisions about what they need to eat to be healthy and very happy :) I imagine they would be up for it.. feeling so miserable day in and day out would be horrible. if someone told me they know how I could be happier and healthier I would try it out. and its not like the food is gross or anything.. its fruit and starches! My aunt actually has depression, a low carb diet is horrible especially when you already have depression and mental illnesses.
i'm with you on that. i started on some lower carb diet from some stupid book because i wanted to try eating different and have more energy/health. i was eating some yams and sweet potatoes and felt good, quit my antidepressants, then over time with running i depleted my glycogen storage, became dehydrated and passed out at a friends house and broke an ankle bone in my right foot. my first broken bone ever. Plus I lost my job cause I couldnt keep up with other co-workers including one that ate at mcdonalds a lot lol Then I feel into the deepest depression I ever felt. When I eat lots of yummy fruits now, I just laugh for no reason. I'm like wow didnt know life could feel this good for no reason. used to be only temporary feeling from stimulants or food that should be called drugs or whatever. Good thing those days are over!
And a lot of it is simply conditioning. A palate is formed for what is familiar.
But could it also be savoring the fear and suffering of the animal? A delight in imagining one's own superiority over a slain creature, maybe the sensation of the triumph of a successful hunt embedded in gene memory? I wonder.
This lifestyle is just too much of a change for most people to handle, it makes sense to me why someone who is beholden to a whole family can't flip the switch.
I think many people on here are single and not living with other people even. It's very easy for us to make any change to how we live for the most part.
Available income and convenience drives many family decisions from what I've seen and this lifestyle does not lean to that at all really, until you learn much more about it. Yes your total long run medical costs will go down but the person buying groceries does not see that.
Yup I can attest to this, being married to a veracious carnivore I have to pay for 2 separate sets of groceries. I buy lots of fruit ,veggies and starchy stuffs for me, and I give her the money to shop for her own tastes and food wants. It aint cheap sir. I simply refuse to push my lifestyle onto anyone, God knows I hate it when someone pushes theirs onto me. So I make a compromise and get for my wife what she wants and for myself what I want. We were already married before I actually became Vegan, and I won't leave my wife simply because she eats meat.
Potatoes, bananas, and rice are like some of the cheapest foods. People think its expensive but I don't really see how, maybe in certain areas wherever they're living it would be more expensive than where I live. that's probably what it is, I hear people talking about all the time a 40lb box of bananas being like $30, for me its $20 or bananas being like .80/lb, for me its .50/lb. and yea people with families think it would just be way too hard to do they stress about the financial aspect and like omg what am I going to cook for the kids, where am I going to get my protein? but I think they are mainly psyching themselves out then they just decide oh its too hard when they could have just made a practically painless gradual transition.. idk, its unfortunate.
Yes potatoes and rice are cheap, I was thinking more full on HCRV. I agree also that bananas can also be cheap once you get used to cycling them in and buying cases.
Gradual is the way to go. One thing at a time, start with one meat group maybe? You can't let them see you doing 811 or they will automatically assume your whole endgame is to push for that, and they will resist. I've spent time with my sister and brother and all their families eat total garbage, but I lead by example and answer questions with specific answers instead of total philosophy or sea change lifestyle quotes.
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