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Howdy all :)

After much discussion in the PK's and seeing a number of posts/blogs talking about cooked vegan food we have decided to create a forum for these discussions rather than totally disallow them (or have them scattered  throughout the main raw food forum).

This may prove to be a good move especially as we have seen undercarbed folks leave the 30BaD forum after not implementing the lifestyle recommendations and then go back to eating animals. We of course don't want this to happen for their health or the animals and having a high carb cooked vegan forum may also assist in minimising this. 

Of course we don't want the forum to turn into a cooked food forum so please post all discussions/mentions of high carb cooked vegan food into this forum. This way we can continue on keeping the main forum on track and raw! We will trial this to see how it goes, we have already moved a number of discussions here :)

Here are some guidelines that we support, put together by the super helpful PK

• Cooking is for emergencies only such as financial reasons and or there is no ripe fruit available, then low fat cooked starches may be an acceptable back up plan.
• Always choose foods that are vegan and promote compassion towards our fellow earthlings.
• Avoid dairy products for compassionate and health reasons:  http://www.notmilk.com/
• Cooking denatures food and kills the enzymes needed in digestion.  Try to plan for at least 75% of the diet to be raw fruits and leafy greens.
• Cooked foods should still be low fat for weight control and cardiovascular health and optimum energy.
• Continue to focus on high carb high calorie sources and the more nutrient dense, the better.
• Fruits do not mix well with cooked foods and or grains.  An idea is to eat fruit meals during the day, and perhaps end the day with a big salad and bowl of steamed rice.
• Cooking should be simple, with as little processing and as few ingredients as possible, and foods should resemble their original states such as steamed broccoli verses cookies.
• This is not a license to kill foods with salt and spices or to eat McDeaths french fries.  A bowl of steamed rice is fine, hold the oil, salt, and spices.
• Continue to follow other guidelines such as avoiding booze, tea, coffee, soda, drugs, etc.  Read more here: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/science.html
• Cooking is for emergencies only, and not for a transition tool.  We still recommend going 100% low fat raw fruit and leafy green for optimum digestion and health results.  As we have said before, one cannot ride two horses (or bikes;D) with the same bum.  For best results and to get over addictions, just do it 100% if and when possible.
• Whenever possible, choose ripe fruits and leafy greens.  Primates and humans cannot manufacture vitamin C, and must consume it in fruit and greens, or they may develop sub-clinical symptoms of scurvy which could include things like skin ulcerations and mouth infections.  Grains and some beans do not have vitamin C, and some beans and potatoes that do have minimal amounts, may have the vitamin C rendered useless via cooking.
• Continue to consider that some of the cheaper so called starch foods have little or no vitamin C, and are usually high in protein.  These foods may cause an acid condition in the body that can contribute long term to arthritis, osteoporosis, tooth decay, kidney problems and kidney stones and cancer.  Grains can also cause indigestion, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, colitis, constipation, diarrhea, bloating, gas, and indigestion.
• Again, it is recommended that as soon as circumstances allow, that one should resume eating a low fat raw fruit and tender leafy green based diet.  For some folks, that may be as easy as downgrading the house and car payment.
• To save a little money now and go the starch route, only to get sick and have to pay for doctors and medications later on is a decision one will have to ask themselves if it is worth the risk involved.

BTW, I have known millionaires and people making over 100K a year who cannot afford fruit because they are maxed out financially on the McMansions they have bought and the beamers and benzes they drive.