Posted by Indra on April 11, 2009 at 8:54am in Off topic
Hi HiParasites....I know the NH/DG-80-10-10 view on various herbal and other method - I will re-iterate here simplistically for info: colon, gallbladder/liver, etc cleanses, unnecessary, over time colon cleans itself on this diet, gallbladder and liver as well (less fat, more vitamins and minerals and perhaps enzymes), body will apportion extra energy that is conserved.Now what is the view on parasites? Will intestinal and other parasites be dealt with by the body following a 80-10-10rv diet following NH principles, or is extended water fasting most likely necessary. Some say of course these things are feeding on sugar (sounds like candida argument), if you cease fermentation, decrease gut transit time, increase fiber, and the bodies building blocks, health, maybe they will be dealt with...Anyone have any knowledge/experience on a deeper perspective on parasites in the body, and dealing with them, the herbal cleanses seem to be toxifying our internal environment enough for the parasites to die/leave, but also must take a toll on us...This seems to be rather different from other health or organ issues....On a personal note: I quit using all herbs and supplements a while ago, before I ever did any of the several herbal cleanses I had known about and had the materials for already, so I never went through with any of them. In the past I have used several of the herbs ad-hoc or as a regime.Personally I know I need an extended water fast and that this should address any parasites, but it will be a while. (Healing on many levels/dimensions).I am Healed and Whole on All Levels.
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I understand figs, papayas(and papaya seeds) and pineapple all are anti parasitic due to protein digesting enzymes; ficin, papain, and bromelain respectively. I've heard fasting on nothing but pineapple and pumpkin seeds for 3 days is sufficient to eliminate most parasites. I cannot verify this. I beleive that parasites are a statement of ones immune system. It seems too hard to not expose oneself to parasites, especially eating raw and wild greens in massive abundance that to cleanse parasites with herbs would only be treating symptoms, and the root cause, toxic environment from putrefactive matter in the intestines, would still be present to attract the same problem again. Fasting and eating 811 would seem sufficient...but then again, something attracts me to ideas of antiparasitic herbs. Chimpanzees in the wild are known to eat certain bitter/astringent, unpalatable leaves to expel worms. And they are as raw is it gets. Horse, sheep, eating nothing but grasses are victum to parasites just the same.
Interesting, I've heard some of this before, both about the fruits and about the chimps eating those herbs, there was a post on vegsource about this, I forget what the response was, that the animals were somehow unnaturally sick.... But it brings up an interesting point.
The common remark about testing, is that most of it is very poor and is rarely adequate in discovering parasites consistently, (some say largely hit and miss, 1 in a 100).
I agree on starving them.
It's good to have a topic searchable for those curious about various cleanse - types.
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an 'extended' water fast was mentioned, but could you be more specific?
thanx
I agree on starving them.
It's good to have a topic searchable for those curious about various cleanse - types.